LOCUTUS: Faces of Apolyton #12 (Part 1),
13/Mar/2004
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Solver: You're very
much about right about a full fledged sequel. I don't think that anyone has the
illusion that such a thing can be expected in the next year or two. However,
regarding the more short-term patches, what's the status of the project team? Is
shortage of coders is a serious issue, or are there any other specialties you
lack? Also, is there someone among the programmers who has the knowledge to
program AI and the multiplayer components of the game?
Locutus:
I think two years would be
extremely optimistic.
As I said, we’re currently working on a patch that’s on-par with the official
Activision v1.11 patch and, aside from builds for playtesting and the like,
we’ll probably not release anything before such a patch is done. The consensus
in the community is that if we want to release a new v1.2 patch, it should
actually be a step up from v1.1, not partially a step up and partially a step
down. So the minimum list of fixes for our first patch is the list of fixes
Activision made for the official patch. And while that list describes roughly
what was done (if sometimes in somewhat vague terms) it does not of course
describe how it was done. Reproducing the fixes of that patch is in some cases
(particularly with complex network code for MP) going to be difficult. So it
will be a while before we will release a new patch.
In itself we have a fair number of programmers working on the project, but since
this is not a commercial project there’s no clear direction: everyone is
basically doing what they feel like. Things would go a lot faster if someone was
handing out assignments (programmer A will fix bug #1 and programmer B will fix
bug #2), but that would take the fun out of it and make it like regular work.
Which is the last thing we want of course, as that will only scare people away.
So right now some people are happily studying and fixing the AI and others are
trying to improve the SLIC scripting language, while what we really need right
now is someone to look at the most urgent fixes still on the to-do list from the
first patch, and many of those are MP-related. But unless I’m ill-informed,
noone is really structurally working on MP at the moment. So if you’re asking
what kind of people we lack, it’s people willing and able to work on MP coding.
Aside from that, if we want to release the patch in a timely fashion, we really
need one or two more programmers who are willing to do what’s necessary to
release the patch ASAP and who can refrain from exploring the code too much and
messing around with whatever fancies them (but I doubt we’ll find such people
unless we start paying them). But that’s the ideal situation; in reality we’ll
take any help we can get.
Don’t get me wrong: the current programmers are doing an absolutely fantastic
job: countless bugs have been fixed already, some of them were from the official
patch fix list, some of them weren’t but were still in dire need of fixing.
Especially Fromafar and also Martin Gühmann are doing a terrific job in this
area. Other programmers such as MrBaggins, Peter Triggs, J Bytheway and
ctplinuxfan are also doing a good job, but they also seem to be spending a fair
amount of time on their own pet projects (which will undoubtedly pay off greatly
in the long run, but isn’t helping to get the patch out). Of course, I shouldn’t
be talking: in theory I could be doing valuable programming as well but in the
rare cases where I can actually spare some time for the project at all, I’m
usually working on management or design.
I don’t doubt that we’ll release the patch eventually, but with our current team
it’s just gonna take some time. Of course, if any programmers (regardless of
skill or experience) with some time to spare are reading this, we can always use
your help! The skills we need the most are network/MP gaming skills, but in the
area of AI programming some further assistance would prove useful as well. But
any help in any area is more than welcome at this point. And as I’m appealing
for help anyway: I think in the longer run, we could really use some graphics
people as well, both programmers (i.e. people with some experience with DirectX
and the like) and artists. There’s currently a lot of talk about replacing
terrain graphics and earlier we’ve discussed considerable changes to the User
Interface as well (even a windowed mode has been suggested, but I fear that
could prove very difficult; we’ll definitely need a good graphics programmer for
that), and I imagine that once we get serious about a sequel we’ll need also a
whole bunch of new units, buildings and other art. But more generally, we could
use help in all areas, from playtesting to art design to programming, and every
other skill required for a project like this.
Solver: Can you
briefly say whether any of the former Activision CtP2 posted after the
source release, and what did they say?
Locutus:
Well, obviously MrOgre made
the release of the code possible, so he was pleased to finally see it posted on
Apolyton and he helped us to get started in the early going. Steve Mariotti
briefly dropped in to say hi and to congratulate everyone involved. And St
Swithin and Pyaray went as far as to (once again) promise to help us in an
advisory role (and have kept their word, though St Swithin seems to have
disappeared again at the time of writing). All were very pleased to see the code
released and were looking forward to seeing what we could do with it, though
they've all also moved on to other projects and can't commit a serious effort to
help us. If anyone was not here, it was John Heinecke (LT John), who was of all
Activisioners the most active on Apolyton a few years ago. But he was a
producer, not a designer or programmer, so now he wouldn't really be able to do
anything more than give us mental support anyway :) Frankly, I have no idea what
happened to him after Activision dropped CtP2, so John, if you happen to read
this, let us know you're still alive!
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