[Mentat] What about railroad Tycoon?
[mrtemba] then I could be hosted by Three sites, that would be awesome!
[Laertus] Well, it's been interesting everyone. Take care.
* Wulf waves to LAertus
[mrtemba] Hey ya know since XOOM has limited web space I could host other sites
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[DSquared] bye
[mrtemba] hmmmmm
[mrtemba] adios
[mrtemba] who was that guy?
[SG_slee] umm..
[Mentat] I like virtualave.net, they allow cgi-bin
[SG_slee] he probably couldn't handle my ass
[mrtemba] not god, eh?
[Silverwind] can't say I blame him :)
[mrtemba] Blackclove was making a scenario called Heaven and Hell
[mrtemba] I was going to help him with it, but then he went MIA
[mrtemba] but I think he might be returning....he showed up in the Sleague forums
[mrtemba] anyone got the 411?
[Mentat] What?
[Wulf] I think all of the games need to giv e you the option of substituting MP3's for their built-in music
[DSquared] probably just to see how it was doing
[SG_slee] hehehe..
[SG_slee] wulf..
[SG_slee] that sounds a tad wrong
[philip017] i still find it scary how much time people spend making these mods. . though then again after the amount of time i've spent playing the game
[SG_slee] piracy would too much of a viable option then
[philip017] i never listen to the built in music .. i have a cd player for a reason
[Wulf] What? You mean there are illegal MP#s out there?
[Wulf] that's not the game makers fault.
[Mentat] kind of a hobby isn't it? making mods, I mean.
[philip017] i guess.. . but
[SG_slee] well.. specifically, it would be way too easy to copy the game's sound trax to mp3.
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[philip017] its easy to copy the cd the way it is. .
[Mentat] Like the way some people try to build ships inside a bottle
[SG_slee] philip..
[philip017] oops. .
[SG_slee] i'm talking about cd-rips
[philip017] i was talking about cd burns
[Wulf] I just hate having to listen to the CD's soundtrack during the game rather than my own MP3 files...
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[Mentat] I found a CD burner in the CS labs here at the UW
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[mrtemba] starchild! wussup!
[Silverwind] hi Starchild
[Starchild] Hi
[Mentat] hi starchild
[Starchild] Did
[Starchild] Damn. Did I miss anything?
[Mentat] Dunno
[Wulf] Starchild: yeah, Sid was here for a bit, but he left after he answered all our questions.
[mrtemba] WHAT????
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* Wulf grins
[mrtemba] noooooo........
* mrtemba laughs
* Wulf gets out the smelling salts...
[Wulf] wake up now
[SG_slee] umm..
[SG_slee] sid wouldn't do that 8)
[Wulf] Show up, or answer our quesytions?
[Mentat] And then we had a ceremony, where we sacrificed a lamb to Sid
[mrtemba] ha! I sacrificed a goat!
[Starchild] What ever happened to traditional human sacrifices? :)
* Wulf sacrificed a Xenofungas...
[Mentat] You were supposed to use a lamb, you fool!
[Wulf] oops
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Session Start: Sun May 30 02:33:26 1999
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[mrtemba] It would explain everything!
[SG_St-Leo] Whoa
[SG_St-Leo] First you say I am Sid Meier, now I am Little John
[Mentat] fake competition to bolster sales!
[SG_St-Leo] Leftenant John, whatever
[Mentat] Leutenant
[mrtemba] yes! We all know CTP isn't a Sid Game!
[SG_St-Leo] Lieutenant
[mrtemba] I thought it was just Lt. John
[philip017] that doesn't make ctp bad though. . .
[mrtemba] he never spells it out!!!! Doesn't that make you wonder???
[mrtemba] well not being a sid game doesn't make it bad, its the actual game that makes itself bad
[Mentat] Maybe he doesn't know how to spell it
[DSquared] hehe
[philip017] i don't think the games bad. . there are just a few flaws in it. .
[SG_St-Leo] Stop interpreting SidGames, please
[philip017] like trying to chop trees
* Mentat ops /me
[Mentat] I want an @ sign in front of my name
[mrtemba] you don't get one!
[philip017] who doesn't?
[mrtemba] Only the Channel Gods get @ signs
[Mentat] Ohhh.
[Mentat] Maybe if i appeal to ChanServ
* mrtemba sacrifies another goat and starts chating "OP OP OP"
[Mentat] ChanServ, please grant me an Op sign
[SG_St-Leo] One sec
[mrtemba] Hear me, Oh Channel God!
* Wulf laughs
[SG_St-Leo] Happy?
[mrtemba] oops, he only gave you a +
[Mentat] Yeah, I get a plus
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[mrtemba] what does that mean?
[Mentat] Beats the hell out of me
[SG_St-Leo] Means you can say stuff in moderated chats
[philip017] its a voice. . it lets you talk. . .
* Wulf chuckles
[Mentat] I have a voice
[SG_St-Leo] You still don't have any kicking rights
[mrtemba] hee hee, I want kicking rights!
[DSquared] well if it's moderated you can talk talk talk and without one of those no one will see anything you type
[Wulf] Now you can marry the prince.
[SG_St-Leo] Hee hee, dream on
[SG_slee] well..
[SG_slee] u can't have kicking rights
[SG_slee] but..
[SG_slee] u can be kicked..
[SG_slee] get my drift? :)
[mrtemba] well I can still slap people with trouts
[Mentat] I once had an @ sign
[mrtemba] since GP tought me how!
[SG_slee] slapping and kicking are two different things
* Mentat slaps mrtemba around a bit with a large trout
* SG_St-Leo slaps mrtemba around a bit with a large trout
[mrtemba] YOU WANNA RISE UP???
* DSquared beats the stuffing out of mrtemba with a beaver
* mrtemba slaps SG_St-Leo around a bit with a large trout
* mrtemba slaps SG_St-Leo around a bit with a large trout
* SG_slee slaps Mentat with a bit of SG_St-Leo.
* mrtemba slaps Mentat around a bit with a large trout
* philip017 throws a ctp cd at Mentat and barely misses severing his head
[SG_slee] err..
* mrtemba skins DSquareds Beaver
[SG_slee] stop
* Wulf goes to the fridge to get another coke...
[SG_slee] or i will seriously kick
* Mentat slaps mrtemba around with a + sign
*** mrtemba was kicked by SG_St-Leo (Puny mortal, thou shalt worship me!:-))
[philip017] lol
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[mrtemba] bitch
* Wulf flops back down onto the couch.
[Silverwind] lol... wb
[DSquared] heh
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[SG_slee] hehehe
[Mentat] Why can't I have an @ sign
*** SG_St-Leo was kicked by SG_slee (oh mighty God.. kiss my ass :))
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[SG_slee] cuz u haven't kissed my ass yet!
* SG_St-Leo kisses Slee's arse
[SG_slee] i didn't ask you to!
[SG_St-Leo] Op me, oh almighty one!
[Mentat] why would you want me to kiss your ass?
* Wulf covers his eyes...
[SG_slee] cuz u want ops
[SG_St-Leo] OP ME OR ELSE, THE GREATEST HUMAN EVER!
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[Silverwind] hi rudolph
[SG_St-Leo] You transcend the boundaries of mortality, oh Lee the great!
[rudolph] hello
[SG_slee] seeing that the civ conversation has died..
[SG_St-Leo] Op me before I delete your pic off SidGames
[DSquared] hey
[SG_St-Leo] Yo
[philip017] there was once a civ conv?
[SG_slee] YoYoHey?
[SG_slee] really?
[SG_slee] there was?
[rudolph] i see nobody plays this game online
[Mentat] Civ3 should have cool new stuff in it
[Wulf] yes, there was for a while
[SG_St-Leo] Destiny?
[philip017] isn't ctp civ3? or basically the same
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[SG_St-Leo] No
[SG_slee] nope
[SG_St-Leo] Different companies
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[SG_slee] two different games
[Mentat] Mayhaptually
[SG_St-Leo] No Sid on the team
[Wulf] although nobody has figured out yet how I can play multiplayer on a LAN with one CD without this %^#$ error.
[philip017] i know it is. . but it was liscenced out to activision
[SG_slee] well.. st leo.. we don't know that..
[SG_slee] no sid meier on the team that 8)
[SG_slee] that is
[SG_St-Leo] No, Activision won it in courts for one game and x-pack
[philip017] how many people normally play online in ctp? the only thing i see bad about that. . is the game takes forever to play
[philip017] what exactly happened?
[philip017] and why?
[Wulf] I'd like simultaneous turns like in SMAC.
[JPetroski] civ III......
[SG_slee] is the sequel to civ II?
[SG_slee] 8)
[JPetroski] What have you heard?
[Mentat] Does CTP have paratroopers?
[SG_St-Leo] Nah, it's a remake
[philip017] yeah; it does
[SG_St-Leo] SMAC is the (relatively crappy) sequel
[Mentat] Those guys were awesome
[philip017] ctp is a really great game. . although . . .
[philip017] i like ctp more then smac. . . although i never really played smac much
[SG_St-Leo] CtP is an (even crappier) clone
[Wulf] I prefer SMAC to CTP so far... but I've had too much trouble getting CTP to work to play it much at all.
[rudolph] the graphics are nice but the interface is pathetic
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[philip017] see; i have a fast computer so ctp isn't so bad
[JPetroski] how fast?
[philip017] p II 300
[JPetroski] damn
[philip017] although . . on some later levels even with graphics off it still seems to go really slow
[rudolph] i have 64 meg ram and 200 mmx .... its slow as a dog on my machine
[philip017] anything thats not instantaneous for me is slow
[Wulf] I'm on a PII300 also, but only 48MB RAM not 64
[SG_St-Leo] P Classic 166
[philip017] i have 64 .. .
[JPetroski] hmm...I see St. Leo was deoped
[SG_St-Leo] I have 96 megs, ha ha!
[SG_St-Leo] No
[JPetroski] so I can reveal my true identity
[philip017] 100 mhz ram also :)
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[mrtemba] hahaha
[SG_St-Leo] Slee, kick him
[rudolph] the cities menu screeen takes forever to redisplay
[SG_St-Leo] And op me:-)
[SG_slee] well..
[SG_slee] i'm getting out ot here..
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[mrtemba] no reason to kick me or op st leo
[SG_slee] enjoy.
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[SG_St-Leo] Thanks:-)
[mrtemba] remember rule #5
[philip017] that does. . so do turns, and going to the ranking screen
[SG_St-Leo] Eh?
[Mentat] St Leo, Op me, eh?
[mrtemba] I know who to report you to
[SG_St-Leo] Who?
[rudolph] i am running my screen in 16 meg color mode ... i guess i could drop it down to 64K colors
[SG_St-Leo] I am a WebMaster
[Boddies] hey all
[SG_St-Leo] You are nothing until you get hosted by us
[SG_St-Leo] Read the Topic
[mrtemba] lol
[philip017] something is wrong with the games speed if on a top of the line computer you have to turn off some of the graphics options
[mrtemba] I have a better offer, sorry :P
[SG_St-Leo] Isn't 500 top of the line?
[philip017] well yeah. . but i consider mine close enough
[philip017] lol
[Mentat] Hey, I'm sort of an unofficial part of the Apolyton staff
[mrtemba] what do you do Mentat?
[DSquared] well I sorta am
[Mentat] I program
[philip017] i pretend not to see computer ads after buying my computer last summer
[mrtemba] I am part of Sleague, which is Apolyton hosted so....
[rudolph] when was the game originally scheduled to be released?
[DSquared] I did some work on the db and do part of the newsletter
[philip017] what game?
[Mentat] I wrote the lightbulb mod for the forums script, and now I'm working on something else
[Wulf] I'm a complete and total nobody, does that count? ;)
[rudolph] CTP
[mrtemba] the lightbulb! that doesn't always work!
[philip017] oh okay
[philip017] btw; im just curious. . does anyone know if the linux version of ctp is that much faster then the windows one? Im assuming its faster. . but. . .
[Mentat] It worked before the upgrade.
[mrtemba] yes, nobodies count too!
[mrtemba] probably, theres a whole site dedicated to it, I can check it out
[mrtemba] oh really? that sucks
[mrtemba] it works most of the time though
[rudolph] when is the next patch coming out?
[MarkG] Yeah, Mentat I'll add you on the team page asap... :)
[mrtemba] well I'd love to stay on the computer all night but I gotta go out now, see ya later!
[Mentat] Cool.
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[SG_St-Leo] See ya
[Mentat] Can I have ops?
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[SG_St-Leo] Nope
[philip017] i feel bad for anyone who trys running ctp on a p 133 with only 32 megs of ram. .
[Mentat] I should probably try and fix the lightbulb thing.
[philip017] what lightbulb thing?
[Mentat] in the forums script
[philip017] oh
[Wulf] Welp, I gotta run. guests coming and all.
* Wulf waves to everyone
[Wulf] Its been nice meeting ya'll
[SG_St-Leo] See ya
[Mentat] bye Wulf
[philip017] g'nite
[DSquared] see ya
[Silverwind] bye, Wulf
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[SG_St-Leo] Nope
*** SG_St-Leo sets mode: +o Mentat
*** SG_St-Leo sets mode: -o Mentat
[SG_St-Leo] Happy?
[Mentat] Don't taunt me
* philip017 3 sets mode: +o Mentat
[philip017] if he could have only taken advantage of it quickly enough; and deoped you st leo
[Mentat] hehe
[BaNaNa_HeAd] Connect winamp to http://194.125.138.131:8050 its currentlr playing (Baz Luhrmann - Everybody's Free (Sunscreen) requests taken
[DSquared] ooh a spammer
[philip017] g'nite
[SG_St-Leo] Give me one good reason not to kick you, Banana Brain:-)
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[philip017] oh wow. . i have a voice
[philip017] im better then those who don't (i don't know why .. but i am :)
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[^^Dante^^] Has anyone else been having Major prob's w/ the New CTP Patch?
[Mentat] Don't taunt me
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[Stewart] ;
[^^Dante^^] It's about to drive me nuts
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[philip017] hm m. . could be your vid card
[^^Dante^^] ATI AllInWonder Pro AGP 8m w/ Voodoo 2 Ref., besides, I have hardly any probs w/ the original vers.
[philip017] that wrecks havok with ctp. . i don't know why either.. ctp's direct draw routines dont seem to be so overly impressive as to require new patches . .
[rudolph] sometimes excessive mouse clicking would crash it
[^^Dante^^] This is 5Mins into the game, click, crash...
[Mentat] ECHHHHH
[philip017] hmm. . thats a weird one. . . for a while i had problems like that. ..
[^^Dante^^] unlike the orig. which would play for 3+ hours on end
[rudolph] i have number nine vid card ....seems to work well
[^^Dante^^] I just got it because during that 3hr MultiPlayer game, we forgot to save for about an hour and lost about 100yrs of progress
[philip017] and i also had a problem if i tried running ctp off my slave cd rom drive too .. . don't do that. . it loads the game. . but if you try loading a saved game or starting a new one it locks up
[^^Dante^^] also, that lamer patch makes it so each computer on a LAN needs a disc... lame
[philip017] i had to switch my cd roms jumpers to get it to work
[^^Dante^^] I thought that before a product is released, it's supposed to be Beta Tested to work this crap out...
[philip017] i think it was. . . this game did not effictively use direct draw at all. . .
[Mentat] Where can I get a LAN?
[philip017] the graphics routines seem hideously slow
[philip017] best buy
[Mentat] :)
[philip017] lol
[philip017] hmm . . . if i had another computer i could make a 3 comp lan .. . if i bought some ethernet cards and such oddities
[^^Dante^^] That patch is a perfect reason to invest in a CD-R drive : )
[philip017] i already have one
[philip017] :)
[philip017] why would the patch be a reason though?
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[^^Dante^^] Because, before the patch, you could run with a CD in just one of the computers,
[^^Dante^^] now you need a disc in each computer
[philip017] oh. . . :). . its not easy to dub a copy of the ctp disc .. .
[Mentat] Where can I get a LAN?
[philip017] the graphics routines seem hideously slow
[^^Dante^^] Gear Replicator... nuff said
[^^Dante^^] It didn't give me any probs, straight copy...
[philip017] and. . make sure you make the cd with the same serial number and name etc
[Mentat] MarkG, can I have Ops?
[Boddies] what happened to the '200 people'...
[philip017] hmm . . mine wouldn't let me do that. . . i mean .. . it couldn't do that if i wanted it to
[DSquared] there wasn't really more than 20 or so at a time
[^^Dante^^] You would think that they would allow for a LAN CD-Seek or maybe a Spawned Copy ( a la Starcraft )
[philip017] yeah .. but; i don't know . . .
[philip017] it has to be in your D: . .. it won't work in your E:. . at least it wouldn't for me. . the game would just crash
[Mentat] Did you try moving the disc from computer to computer for each validation?
[philip017] and i'dhave to reset
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[^^Dante^^] Yeah, that worked, but it had a tendancy to slow the gameplay down for some reason... also annoying as hell
[philip017] you know. . im still trying to find one usage. . just one usage for my cd-r drive that isn't breaking some form of copyright laws . .
[^^Dante^^] Philip, I dunno bout that, my CD is K:
[Mentat] If you had a small band and you wanted to distribute your music?
[philip017] i guess. . i make music cds of different live shows I trade. . but even that
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[^^Dante^^] You want to backup those 80,000 book reports you saved on your puter...
[philip017] when i tape the show and have to sneak in a recorder. . or knowing someone did at the first show. ..
[philip017] lol
[Mentat] Or if you want to bakup stuff.
[DSquared_] someone kick my clone :-)
[philip017] i've backed up stuff wtih it. . .
[philip017] but. . . then again . . . that was before reformatting so i wouldn't lose it all
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[LordStone1] So how did the chat go? breaking some form of copyright laws . .
[^^Dante^^] Philip, I dunno bout that, my CD is K:
[^^Dante^^] l8r
[philip017] i guess. . i make music cds of different live shows I trade. . but even that
[Mentat] bye Philip
[SG_St-Leo] Bah bye
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[Mentat] Bye Leo
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[TutcH] anyone who plays ctp here? (and is good at it)
[SG_St-Leo] I am staying:-)
[Mentat] Oh
[LordStone1] I would be playing CTP if I didn't lose the CD
[LordStone1] This blows I'm outta here
[Mentat] If I find your CD, can I keep it?
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[TutcH] so what did you chat about?
[Mentat] LAN bug in the CTP patch
[TutcH] i see, that must have been fun...
[Mentat] No, believe it or not, it was boring
[TutcH] well, my problem is that i want competition in ctp...
[Mentat] Hard to find?
[TutcH] yep, specially in the lobbys
[Mentat] Well, I don't own the game.
[TutcH] so i thought maybe there were some bright guys here!
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[Mentat] Just me.
[rudolph] it doesnt look like many people play CTP online
[TutcH] and you dont play...
[Mentat] I haven't really gotten into multiplayer much.
[rudolph] the lobby program is so lame ... you have to sit thier and wait and cant do anything else with your computer
[Mentat] Seeing as I don't have money.
[Mentat] It's not windows based?
[TutcH] guess money and time is an issue. yes.
[rudolph] its all directx crap
[SG_St-Leo] ALT+TAB?
[SG_St-Leo] CTRL+ESC?
[rudolph] then the window gets min and you cant see what is going on
[SG_St-Leo] Try those
[SG_St-Leo] BUmmer
[TutcH] you can do something else, but (in v1.0) if you stay too long away, you disconnect and have to restart ctp
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[TutcH] that is in the lobby, when you play, it automatically (I think) go back when its your turn
[Mentat] I want to get Homeworld when it comes out.
[SG_St-Leo] I want to get HoMM3 ASAP
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[rudolph] I guess Sid is going to come out with a Civ 3 .... maybe he will have a decent interface and program
[Mentat] Maybe he won't care, because he's already rich
[rudolph] I wish i could return my program and get my money back
[Mentat] OK, I'm getting tired. Bye people, I'm going to take a nap.
[Silverwind] bye, Mentat
[DSquared] bye
[TutcH] by
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[Silverwind] sure got quiet in here
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[Aussie] hello
[Silverwind] hi, Aussie
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[Silverwind] well, I've gotta be going... hopefully you'll all find a way to manage without me... lol
[Silverwind] bye all!
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[SG_St-Leo] Eh?
[SG_St-Leo] See y'all!
[SG_St-Leo] Bah bye
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[MarkG] http://apolyton.net/civ2/column/43_untitled.shtml
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[Boddingtons] I'm two people at once: how did I manage that?
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[MarkG] well, I'm leaving in a minute....
[MarkG] it was nice
[MarkG] let's do it again :)
[DSquared] ok
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