[RodLosAngeles] .4their music is very catchy
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I happen to like the Babylonians but only because whn I play them they're not attacking me!
[Lonestar1] MOBIUS: If that is really you, prove it.
[Faboba] Mike - Are you being put to work on patches / golf immediately or are you getting a chance to chill, eat biccies and play Civ?
[StarBegotten] I like the Babs as well, always hve!
[The_REAL_MOBIUS] .12Lonestar you Aggie scumsucking dog! ;-)
[LoQtus] hehe
[LoQtus] well, that kind of defeats the purpuse of my next question: what's your most feared enemy :)
[Lonestar1] Oh? What happened to me on the OT on Sunday?
[RodLosAngeles] .4is this an interview?
[Marcelo74] Well see you soon guys
[Lonestar1] See ya
[StarBegotten] bye
[Marcelo74] Take care Lonestar and LoQtus
[LoQtus] no, but I happened to come up with 2 questions at the same time, RLA
[Marcelo74] Bye Star
[LoQtus] bye Marcelo
[RodLosAngeles] .4Sarah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Lonestar1] Adios
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[LoQtus] :P
[The_REAL_MOBIUS] .12So has someone already won the game?
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I'm working on the patch and working on creating a new library... Sid's handling Golf
[Lonestar1] You are not the real Mobius
[RodLosAngeles] yeah I beat it by UN victory
[Faboba] A new..... library?
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] The Zulus are second to the Babylonians as my "most feared" civ because they are pretty aggressive.
[StarBegotten] what stuff you adding to the patch then?
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Oh and I'm working on localizations for the editor
[RodLosAngeles] .4we are attending to the little things like the archer-missile thing first
[The_REAL_MOBIUS] .12Oh yes I am!
[LoQtus] cool. are the Zulus and/or Babylonians as dangerous as the Mongols in Civ2?
[RodLosAngeles] .4then we shall start work on MP possibilities
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I don't know what the full plans for the patch are yet because I'm mostly handling updates to the editor and we haven't had a formal meeting to discuss what's going to be in the patch...
[StarBegotten] yeah RLA very good....
[The_REAL_MOBIUS] .12This is a pretty poor turnout...
[RodLosAngeles] .4lol
[Lonestar1] No, you are not. Where are you from? What happened to me in the OT on Sunday?
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I don't know that they're dnagerous...just much more aggressive than me...
[StarBegotten] Excuse my ignorance, but who is MOBIUS?
[Lonestar1] RLA, so, what's life like in the armpit of western civilization?
[LoQtus] interesting...
[Lonestar1] a dodgy Limey in the OT forum
[The_REAL_MOBIUS] .12How am I expected to remember that!?! Something about Belgians?
[RodLosAngeles] .4Los Angeles or just America?
[RodLosAngeles] .4or both?
[Lonestar1] LA
[RodLosAngeles] .4L.A. ain't no armpit
[Lonestar1] Bah. good enough. I was thinking the Banning
[The_REAL_MOBIUS] .12The OT is dead, so I followed the trail
[RodLosAngeles] .4L.A. is the genitalia of western civilization
[RodLosAngeles] .4don't question me just agree
[Lonestar1] .1I get called a Nazi, when I crack a joke about sluts with the person who called me a Nazis, I get banned: see the problem?
[LoQtus] if time/money/whatever was not an issue, what would you most want to change about civ3? add MP? minor civs? new govt system? ???
[Lonestar1] Well, I've spent some time in San Diego
[The_REAL_MOBIUS] .12Oh the Devilmunchkin episode...
[Faboba] LoQutus - Kill the bloody chariot............
[Lonestar1] Hey Mike, I see IGN gave you guys a 9.3, great job
[Faboba] Mike - Is there........ birdsong in Civ3?
[LoQtus] lol, fab
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Hmmm.... probably MP and expanding the Great Leader concept to have non-military leaders. The minor civs seemed like a cool idea before the game was really functioning but now I think it would just bog the game down unnecessarily. I like the govt system myself...
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[el_granota] ni
[Lonestar1] I know. Geez. DM is crazy. Pray you never meet her in person
[el_granota] ni
[Lonestar1] Nee!
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Uh, yeah there is birdsong... we have some ambient "world noises" playing in the background -- it's not continuous though
[el_granota] hi
[el_granota] hola
[RodLosAngeles] .4oh I thought u meant the birdie song
[el_granota] alguien sabe español
[el_granota] ?
[LoQtus] that would indeed be a good idea. Any chance that's gonna make it into a patch? govt system was just a suggestion
[Faboba] RLA - lol!
[Lonestar1] lo sientoi
[Lonestar1] Mi espanol no es bueno
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[el_granota] sabes cuando sale civ 3 en españa
[Faboba] My spanish no is good
[Lonestar1] Don't tell DM I said that Mobius....
[el_granota] ?
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] What? The great leaders? Probably not. That would be a pretty big system and would need some art as well...
[LoQtus] yes, great leaders.
[Faboba] When will Civ3 be on sale in spain?
[Lonestar1] Hey mike, do you know when Civ3 goes on sell in spain?
[Psiwar] granota...de certeza sai quando sair no resto da Europa...Novembro, 16
[LoQtus] okay, that's something to put on the Civ4 wishlist then :)
[RodLosAngeles] .4when civ3 spain?
[el_granota] gracias
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I don't know when the game will be on sale except in the US... that's Infogrames' department....
[Psiwar] infogrames = evil
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I did build a Spanish version of the editor today though...
[el_granota] ok
[StarBegotten] Again, excuse my ignorance, but is this IRC channel a regular thing or just a one off?
[Faboba] Regular
[Faboba] It's awlays here
[Immortal_Wombat1] its always open
[Faboba] But people are only here about once a week
[Immortal_Wombat1] the civ3 party is a one-off
[StarBegotten] okay, thanks
[Lonestar1] Fadoba: Yeah, yeah, my Spanish sucks. I haen't taking any since my sophomore year in HS.
[StarBegotten] when are the main meeting times?
[LoQtus] mike, have you ever looked at alt. civs games like Clash or GGS? what do you think of them? have ideas from it been used/considered for inclusion in CIv3
[The_REAL_MOBIUS] .12Party? What party?
[Immortal_Wombat1] sunday evenings
[Immortal_Wombat1] this MOBY
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[StarBegotten] thanks (MOBY?)
[Immortal_Wombat1] MOBIUS ;)
[Psiwar-] Can we change the tech paradigm in the editor?
[Faboba] Lonestar - I'm not knocking it - Much better than mine. As far as I can see it's right though
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I haven't looked at any alt.civ games but I'm betting others here have. I don't know if any ideas came from them but I do know we looked at Apolyton and CivFanatics for ideas and suggestions.
[Faboba] paradigm? Probably just the sci points for each advance
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] The tech paradigm?
[Psiwar-] yes
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I don' tknow what you mean by that....
[el_granota] as he is civ 3, I die to play
[Psiwar-] er...
[Faboba] Mike - In Civ2 you could alter a multiplier for tech cost. The default was one but you could change it to make techs quicker or longer to research
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[Psiwar-] i remember that we could change the tech paradigm in rules.txt of civ 2
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[Psiwar-] to slow research
[el_granota] lo siento my ingles no es bueno
[Faboba] Mike - I'm assuming the same system won't be here but you'll have given us the ability to change the cost of each te3ch in the editor. Right?
[Psiwar-] no same feature in civ 3?
[Faboba] Hi..... something. My English isn't good
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Hmmm... I don't think you can change that but you can change the cost of each tech...
[Psiwar-] er...change all techs? ewww...
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[Lonestar1] no problemo el_granota
[Psiwar-] the tech paradigm worked as a multiplier
[el_granota] ok
[el_granota] que tal es el juego?
[Psiwar-] so it was handy...how did Firaxis forgot that?
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I see what you mean but we don't have that in Civ3 -- I believe that's more a function of the difficulty level.
[Lonestar1] Is he saying how is the game?
[el_granota] todavia no esta en españa
[Faboba] Si no suena demasiado malo podría utilizar el translater en el
[LoQtus] damn, my PC is about to crash, might be gone for a few mittues
[Faboba] altavista para traducir lo que usted está diciendo si usted desea
[Faboba] hacer a micrófono cualesquiera preguntas.
[el_granota] buena idea
[el_granota] donde puedo conseguirlo?
[Faboba] Where can I get it?
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Psiwar: Actually , I think that's something we will be adding in a patch.
[StarBegotten] well thats me away, nice to talk to you all
[Lonestar1] I think so.
[Lonestar1] Too bad Marcelo took off
[Psiwar-] Ah...that's more like it. =)
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[Faboba] Qué usted significa? Qué hace compras?
[el_granota] solo una cosa mas, es verdad que sale mañana una demo?
[Psiwar-] Infogrames force Firaxis to shove Civ 3 out the door, didn't it? :\
[Immortal_Wombat1] anyone knoe anything about psammosere succession?
[Lonestar1] What is: psammosere?
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[Immortal_Wombat1] sand dunes
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Well, I wouldn't say that... We wanted to have the game done in a reasonable amount of time and seemd to us to be unreasonable to hold up the release of the game if the editor wasn't quite done....
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[Immortal_Wombat1] editor's the best bit Mike
[Lonestar1] Hi RLA
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] But the game is what people buy....
[Psiwar-] well...editor looks great so far
[Faboba] Mike - Any idea when and where you could get it in Spain and when the demo is going to come out?
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4yo
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4it's Sarah!!!!!!!!
[Lonestar1] no Idea Wombat, sorry
[Psiwar-] faboba: November 16
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Faboba: Sorry, I don't know about that
[Lonestar1] Tell 'im.......Walmart
[Faboba] Él dice que él no sabe. O pregunta: (
[el_granota] demo?
[Psiwar-] Mike, another question. I heard that people starting in world map could not get civs to spawn in their correct locations...true?
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4true
[Lonestar1] Quiet RLA
[Faboba] El no sabe
[Psiwar-] why? and why no option like in civ 2?
[(RodLosAngeles)] .12shut it dumbass
[el_granota] ok
[Faboba] El dice
[Faboba] :(
[Lonestar1] .5Suck it, commie
[(RodLosAngeles)] .12feck aff
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[Psiwar-] hmm...shouldn't this chanell be moderated?
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I believe starting locations are randomized for balancing issues but again, I'm working on that for the patch. That seems like a no-brainer to me.
[Immortal_Wombat1] where's connor when you need him?
[Faboba] Jeff - Do you think the REAL jeff would kick your ass?
[Lonestar1] *shakes hand angrly at RLA/Jeff*
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4heh
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4bring it on real Jeff
[Lonestar1] Hell, my Family lives in Fairfax, VA, which isnot far from Bethesda Maryland. Is that correct Mike?
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4that is false
[Psiwar-] Ok Mike Tx. Because those 2 issues are not only important for scenario making...regular games can be quite interesting if we can control tech paradigm and civ placement
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Actually, I would n't know as I'm not originally from Maruland and since I've been here I've spent most of my tim ein my office making this game :)
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[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Psiwar: I agree.
[el_granota] -:)
[Psiwar-] Any ETA on that patch?
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4January 14th
[Mercator] The mapeditor seems to be able to control a civs starting point, or so the following screenshot tells me: http://apolyton.net/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=566928
[The_REAL_MOBIUS] C U @ Freefire zone
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[LoQtus] testing...
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4Loading...
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[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I'm sure someone in a higher position than me has an ETA but I haven't been informed of one yet. I think localization issues are top priority right now.
[LoQtus] yes, found & killed the bug without crashing my PC :) I feel so proud now :)
[Some_Random_Guy] Hey Jeff!
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4hey random guy!
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Or NOT Jeff as the case may be....
[Some_Random_Guy] What kind of car do you drive?
[(RodLosAngeles)] I am so Jeff
[(RodLosAngeles)] check my office!
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I did
[Some_Random_Guy] What kind of car?
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4well check again
[Some_Random_Guy] Jeff?
[(RodLosAngeles)] I don't drive
[Some_Random_Guy] ...
[LoQtus] random guy: that is not the real Jeff, Mike IS real though
[Some_Random_Guy] That's not true..
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4yes it is
[Some_Random_Guy] Sorry...no
[Faboba] Por lo que sé, usted puede pedir el juego de una compañía grande como amazon o boutique del elemento electrónico y conseguirlo enviado a España. Será costosa sin embargo.
[Faboba] Mike - Overworked ;)
[Lonestar1] 'xactly, puts those Lazy Japanese workers to shame. ;)
[Faboba] roflol
[Lonestar1] RLA, on the other hand, has way to much time
[Faboba] Evil nintendo
[Lonestar1] Now, I'm going to get the Gamecube, so don't knock it.
[Some_Random_Guy] Jeff?
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4RMAOTF!
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4yes
[Some_Random_Guy] What kind of car do you drive?
[LoQtus] and sarah: f*ck off or change the nick, you're not doing anyone a favor
[(RodLosAngeles)] Mclaren F1?
[Some_Random_Guy] You don't know?
[Immortal_Wombat1] faboba, aren't you in scotland?
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4I can't remember.....let me check
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[Some_Random_Guy] Wow...you're pretending to be Jeff?
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4nope, its been stolen!
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Lame, isn't it?
[LoQtus] Mike: do you know how the civs were picked? any criteria? why FE the spanish, mongols or arabs didn't make it?
[Some_Random_Guy] That's pretty funny...you gotta admit
[Lonestar1] He is
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4shouldn't there be mods to boot me for this?
[Some_Random_Guy] You're life has gotta REALLY suck!
[Lonestar1] That's what I was thinking
[Some_Random_Guy] Told
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4it does without Civ3!
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I didn't pick the civs... I believe Jeff Briggs made that decision. I'm sure he just wanted something a little different from civ2...
[Some_Random_Guy] What does chump?
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4my life
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4only 4 hours til I get civ3!
[LoQtus] okay. Damn, should have come up with that question earlier...
[Some_Random_Guy] Not Jeff's tard...yours..the one you wake up to every night
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4I mean.....um.......no, I MADE civ3!
[Some_Random_Guy] Sweating
[Some_Random_Guy] Scared
[Mercator] so they were picked for fun, not because of historical importance?
[Some_Random_Guy] Lonely
[Some_Random_Guy] You're all like
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] That's my guess but I can't be sure...
[Lonestar1] overweight. Don't forget that.
[Some_Random_Guy] I'm gonna be someone...if only pretend!
[Faboba] Well it is a GAME after all
[Some_Random_Guy] Sad really
[Immortal_Wombat1] i knew it!! FIRAXIS think we're paranoid history-freaks :D
[Lonestar1] Faboda: you Scots?
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4will u shut the hell uo random dude
[Some_Random_Guy] Why don't you get a real job?
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Well obviously not for historical importance... the Iroquois probably wouldn't be in if that was the sole criteria....
[Faboba] Still with the loss of the Mongols I fear we mayb have lots an important savage element
[Some_Random_Guy] Please...please..make me
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4yeah, where are the Scots in civ£???????
[(RodLosAngeles)] civ3*
[Some_Random_Guy] Hey Jeff!
[Some_Random_Guy] You still there?!
[LoQtus] mike: does Firaxis think we're paranoid freaks? ;)
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[Faboba] Jeff -Wheesht. We shoudn't be in it anyway
[Some_Random_Guy] Jeff@!
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4Mike, who no Scots, or at least the Celts!!!
[Faboba] They gayed it up in CTP
[Some_Random_Guy] Hey Jeff!
[Faboba] Yep - Celts
[Some_Random_Guy] You still there?
[Immortal_Wombat1] least in CtP you could add as many civs as you wanted
[Some_Random_Guy] So...tell me about your morning?
[Lonestar1] SRA: His nameis RLA
[Faboba] Bsicly the Civ2 civs were good choices..... except the Carthaginians
[LoQtus] IW: actually only 64, but still...
[Some_Random_Guy] Did you wake up today...thinking you' BREAK THE MOLD of lameness?
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4yeah I always made the Scots in CTP, but at least the celts were in Civ2!
[Some_Random_Guy] I'm gonna be an UBER-lamer
[Immortal_Wombat1] ah yeah :(
[Immortal_Wombat1] unlimited units though
[Some_Random_Guy] Jeff!
[Some_Random_Guy] Answer me!
[Faboba] Jeff - Expansion pack boyo
[LoQtus] true, but only 200 sprites :P
[Some_Random_Guy] Were you all like "Today! I will pretend to be someone...anyone other than myself!
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4Don't tell me.....tell the real Jeff when he shows up
[(RodLosAngeles)] BRB
[Immortal_Wombat1] yeah, but that doesnt matter, its the principal
[Some_Random_Guy] Cuz you're really tired of yourself aren't you
[Faboba] Mike - Do you tend to play on generated maps or on the world maps?
[Some_Random_Guy] Jeff?
[LoQtus] true...
[Some_Random_Guy] Sick and tired of being just...some random guy
[Some_Random_Guy] Anonymous
[Some_Random_Guy] ignored
[Some_Random_Guy] lonely
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I like the random generator myself but I also made a map that I've played on...
[Some_Random_Guy] desperate for attention
[LoQtus] who's your favourite advisor? :)
[Some_Random_Guy] try anything won't ya?
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] how sad
[Some_Random_Guy] Serious
[Immortal_Wombat1] you got a question list there wouter?
[LoQtus] what kind of map? historic or fantasy?
[Immortal_Wombat1] just read em off, one by one
[Some_Random_Guy] I'm glad you agree...you're a real Firaxian..tard boy just pretends on weekday nights
[Faboba] .1Mike - How do you find the resources. Are they a bit spread out to make things even or are the abysmally localised ( which is good from a strategy POV )
[Some_Random_Guy] Star trek not on tonight tard?
[LoQtus] nope, but I'm trying to milk this out while I can :) just hope someone is logging it...
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4ok back
[Some_Random_Guy] You lovely 7 of 9 not around?
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] It's just a big Ring of a continent but there's an island with the 1 source of uranium...
[Some_Random_Guy] Ok back from where?
[Lonestar1] Or Captain Janeway
[Immortal_Wombat1] if you've been here constantly, just do an almighty copy-paste for backup:)
[Some_Random_Guy] told
[Faboba] Mike - No, I mean really in random generation
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] There's always the cow scenario
[Some_Random_Guy] told
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I think the resources are spread pretty evenly -- not so bad that you can't get some resources but not so good that you have all that you need without trading or going to war...
[Mercator] so, would you be willing to send me your map? :D To put on my website?
[Some_Random_Guy] Hey Jeff!
[Immortal_Wombat1] cow scenario??
[Some_Random_Guy] Answer me!
[Some_Random_Guy] About your life
[LoQtus] hmm, that's sounds like a cool scenario thingie, simple but nice gameplay issues
[Some_Random_Guy] What makes a person like you do what you do
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Javier? What are you talking about? ;)
[Some_Random_Guy] I'm curious
[Lonestar1] You know, RLA, you could just go back to your *real* SN
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4I could
[Some_Random_Guy] Gotta be pretty lonely....pretending to be someone else...why don't you jump into dungeons and dragons or something
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] lol
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] hey!
[Some_Random_Guy] told
[Lonestar1] SRA: Don't dish RPGers
[Some_Random_Guy] Just the lonely ones
[Some_Random_Guy] like the poser
[Lonestar1] alrighty
[LoQtus] IW: I'd wish but something's wrong with my mouse: I can't drag it, some weird Windows bug. I should really restart but I loose the entire log. I'm still thinking about alternatives...
[Immortal_Wombat1] dish?
[Some_Random_Guy] It's so funny....homeboy's all like
[Some_Random_Guy] I'm gonna be a real person today...not just some oppresed teenages
[Lonestar1] RLA, c'mon, just change handles....
[Some_Random_Guy] Desperate for anything...too scared to be real
[Faboba] Firaxians - Cow scenario?
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Maybe I'll email it to MarkG
[Some_Random_Guy] So into it....so into being someone else
[Some_Random_Guy] you should
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[Some_Random_Guy] nail this lame ass tool
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[LoQtus] IW: ???
[Immortal_Wombat1] hi
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Faboba: I don't know what you're talking about :)
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[Mercator] nice
[LoQtus] that would be cool Mike :b:
[connorkimbro] Jeff_Morris: youre firaxis, right?
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] connor that's not really Jeff Morris
[(RodLosAngeles)] .4yeah ok now u know
[LoQtus] connor! no!
[Faboba] Mike - Neither do it. It's Javier seems to know
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[Some_Random_Guy] no...he's a tool
[connorkimbro] ok
[(RodLosAngeles)] the REAL jeff
[Immortal_Wombat1] connor, is this being logged?
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] no
[connorkimbro] nevermind, sorry
[(RodLosAngeles)] damn!
[Some_Random_Guy] haw...demoted
[connorkimbro] yes, it is
[Immortal_Wombat1] good good
[Some_Random_Guy] fake boy loses another privalige
[Immortal_Wombat1] rest easy wouter ;)
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] told
[Some_Random_Guy] funny how chat is just like real life
[Some_Random_Guy] you get dogged here too
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] lol
[LoQtus] connor: please kick Jeff aka RLA aka Sarah, you're not the first one to be confused
[Some_Random_Guy] you can't even be a moron right
[Lonestar1] SRA, where abouts you from?
[Faboba] Wait. Is Jeff the real Jeff or a faux Jeff?
[Some_Random_Guy] really sad
[Some_Random_Guy] fake
[Lonestar1] faux
[Immortal_Wombat1] faux
[connorkimbro] ok, set away again. 1 more hour of work. just checking in :)
[Some_Random_Guy] lonely fake too
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Jeff_Morris is NOT the real Jeff Morris
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[LoQtus] goodie! my questions have not been in vein :) thanks for logging it connor :)
[Lonestar1] Pseudo-Jeff over there is from LA
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[Some_Random_Guy] haw...pseudo...funny...
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[Some_Random_Guy] told
[Some_Random_Guy] cya
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] told
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] byebye
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[Lonestar1] adios, muchacho
[Lonestar1] well, guess everyone is leaving
[Lonestar1] Thanks for coming by, Firaxianx
[connor-away] if he comes back ill deal with him later. i CAN permaban people from the room :)
[Lonestar1] *Firaxians
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] No problem
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[connor-away] Yes, Firaxians, thank you very much for coming
[Mercator] so, random guy didn´t have much else to talk about than fake jeff did he?
[Lonestar1] nope
[connor-away] We DO appreciate it a great deal. :) And congrats on Civ3, enjoy yourselves for a few days :)
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[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I think random guy may have had some interest in that....
[LoQtus] nope, guess not, Mercator
[Immortal_Wombat1] [cough]
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[Lonestar1] That's right, Firaxians, I hope y'all got some time off for this...
[connor-away] .14is now .10Away .14 . ..6co.10nn.6or.3-.14B.10o.6t.6 V.10e.6®.10 5.11 ..14
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] We did, finally got to start playing the games that we'd been missing out on
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[Lonestar1] God!
[Mercator] so, what difficulty level do you play at?
[Lonestar1] Go Away!
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] Regent/Monarch
[Lonestar1] IW: Where In England are you from?
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I can't cope with anything above Monarch yet...
[Immortal_Wombat1] king?#
[Immortal_Wombat1] sussex
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[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] yeah
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Monarch=King
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] == ;-)
[LoQtus] so, on with the interrogation ;) what is the deal with that cow scenario? (didn't think I would let go of it that easily, did ya?) :D
[tulcas] ok well i have been hacking at the files for a bit...here's the scoop, from what i have been able to get to work in terms of adding more units
[Mercator] what?! you made the program, and you can´t handle Deity? ;)
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[Cool_to_be_Stupid] Wow...Jeff's here!
[(RodLosAngeles)] he sure is
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I didn't work on the AI :(
[Lonestar1] Sussex...nope, don't know where that is.
[Cool_to_be_Stupid] Amazing...what kind of car do you drive?
[tulcas] there appears to be a limit of 80 icons for different types of units
[Cool_to_be_Stupid] It was fun watching you get kicked
[Cool_to_be_Stupid] I laughed HARD
[(RodLosAngeles)] I didn't get kicked
[(RodLosAngeles)] I left to come back as myself
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] *sigh*
[(RodLosAngeles)] and I came back as myself for a minute
[Cool_to_be_Stupid] Just like real life...kicked out of places...not wanted...alone
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[Mercator] *sigh* indeed
[Cool_to_be_Stupid] So unpopular...must suck to be you
[Lonestar1] Kinda like a American in the West Bank, ja?
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] lol
[Cool_to_be_Stupid] Awful
[Cool_to_be_Stupid] Pretending to be someone...you gotta wonder
[LoQtus] mike: do you know if this is true about those 80 icons?
[Mercator] you´re just about as annoying as fake jeff, ctbs
[Cool_to_be_Stupid] He started it
[Immortal_Wombat1] lone: south of london, 1/2 way between london and the south coast
[(RodLosAngeles)] shut up twat
[tulcas] there seems to be a limit of 127 or 256 units depending on if a byte is signed or not
[Cool_to_be_Stupid] Nice....
[Lonestar1] Javier, what's your job over in Bethesda?
[Cool_to_be_Stupid] Well, UNLIKE Mr. Imposter...I'm gonna go live a REAL life
[Cool_to_be_Stupid] Ta tool
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[Lonestar1] I like the term "Pseudo-Jeff" better
[(RodLosAngeles)] yeah, go
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] ? I work in Hunt Valley -- programmer
[(RodLosAngeles)] Hunt Valley, CA?
[Faboba] Sleep.........
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I think there may be 80 icons but as far as I know that's no hard-coded limit.
[Lonestar1] Sorry, thought Firaxis was in Bethesda....
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[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] np
[Lonestar1] Maryland, that is
[LoQtus] pew, good to hear
[Faboba] tulcas - I thought we tended to use twos-compliment
[tulcas] furthermore i have managed to make custom units by hexediting, i can load those into the default editor, and mess with any value but the name
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[Faboba] tulcas - They've spend the last week teaching me that nonsens ein what is laughably referred to as higher computing
[tulcas] changing the name causes the game to crash when the unit is set for production in the city
[Immortal_Wombat1] genius...
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[tulcas] so you can add new units to the game right now but they have to have the same name as a pre-existing unit
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[Faboba] cool
[LoQtus] you guys mentioned you already made some scenarios earlier. can you tell us what they're about?
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Oh... the name is used to find the art so you'd need to rename the folder as well
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] and the .ini file in the folder
[tulcas] i will upload a file with an "extra" slot as soon as i can get it stable
[tulcas] ah!
[Faboba] Yeah Javier was talking about a cow scenario???????
[tulcas] thanks mike
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Well, I didn't make them so I don't know what they're about
[Immortal_Wombat1] my connection has died, someone make a "RATE THE GAME" thread in Civ3 general
[Immortal_Wombat1] poll, with 10 options, 1 -] 10
[(RodLosAngeles)] 9
[Immortal_Wombat1] mike, you never play the scenarios?
[Faboba] will do
[WarTourist] .Hey...who pulled monkey boy's string?! Imposter 'tard!
[Immortal_Wombat1] t afab
[Immortal_Wombat1] ta fab
[tulcas] ok well i am gonna go try that out and see if i can get it to work now...(wish me luck)
[Lonestar1] luck
[LoQtus] how would you Firaxians rate the game (on a scale of 1-10)?
[Immortal_Wombat1] .1good luck
[(RodLosAngeles)] 9
[WarTourist] .Hey...who pulled monkey boy's string! Imposter 'tard!
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I was too bust working on it. I happen to like the random generator so I mostly use that anyway
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[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] too busy that is
[Lonestar1] WarTourist: Yep, Pseudo-Jeff over there is a impostero
[(RodLosAngeles)] yeah very good dumbass
[WarTourist] .Hey...who pulled monkey boy's string! Imposter 'tard!
[Lonestar1] Faded Glory!
[faded_glory] Hey did somebody say party?
[Immortal_Wombat1] too busy working on it. soundsl ike us guys on ctp2 ... lol
[Lonestar1] Not much
[(RodLosAngeles)] u a sad bastard if u got nothing better to do than this
[WarTourist] .Hey...who pulled monkey boy's string! Imposter 'tard!
[Lonestar1] More like the Social Democrats party
[faded_glory] *busts down the doors brings in wheel barrow full of kegs*
[Immortal_Wombat1] shut it wartourist
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Kegs? sweet
[Immortal_Wombat1] mmm, kegs
[LoQtus] hehe, you have no idea wombat, you didn't have to listen to their wining everyday on the Alpha testers forum :)
[Lonestar1] ::peers down @ FG:: you got any Corona?
[Immortal_Wombat1] there was a forum??
[faded_glory] .4hey u guys at Civ3 did a great job
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] bring out the kegerator
[faded_glory] my thanks to all of you
[LoQtus] yes, a secret one, so I can't tell you about it :P
[Immortal_Wombat1] gdi :(
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Thank you for being a fan. I have never workd on a game with such a loyal and huge following
[LoQtus] it was on apolyton though...
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[Immortal_Wombat1] spam spam spammity spam
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] glad you like it. I'm just curious to see how long it takes someone to beat it on deity.
[Lonestar1] Faded Glopry is from Wisconsin, so he is impressed by shiny things....
[faded_glory] yes lonestar
[Immortal_Wombat1] lol
[Lonestar1] :)
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[faded_glory] whats that supposed to mean ;-)?
[WarTourist] .Victory!
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[WarTourist] .Hey...who pulled monkey boy's string! Imposter 'tard!
[Immortal_Wombat1] *bitch slap*
[faded_glory] haha
[Lonestar1] Kinda like the Dr. Pepper Commercial: GreenbayWatch
[LoQtus] firaxians: what's the best game you guys ever played?
[faded_glory] lol thats bullshit lonestar
[faded_glory] haha
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Day of the Tentacle
[Immortal_Wombat1] ctp2 ho ho ho
[Lonestar1] Now, here in Texas, we get real Cane Sugar in our Dr. Pepper, the rest of the country gets corn syrup
[Lonestar1] Day of the Tentacle?
[faded_glory] lone.....wisconsin is the land of BEER and Cheese!
[Lonestar1] What, not Scorched Earth?
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] High School football.
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Whoa! Too bad about the cheese though
[faded_glory] beat dat :-D
[LoQtus] LOL, Javier
[(RodLosAngeles)] Civ3
[Lonestar1] Corona is far superior to anything Milwaukee puts out.
[WarTourist] Hey...who pulled monkey boy's string! Imposter 'tard!
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[Immortal_Wombat1] .3ha ha, you forgot the bold
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[WarTourist] .Spank!
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[Lonestar1] Howdy Markos
[faded_glory] Markos!
[faded_glory] hehe
[LoQtus] what's day of the tenacle, mike? what type of game? strategy? FPS?
[Immortal_Wombat1] we love you markos, giannopoulos!
[Lonestar1] So, two OTers are on....
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[Lonestar1] plus Markos
[WarTourist] Now you're screwed tard imposter
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] DOTT is an old LucasArts adventure game
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[Guest11306] day of the tentacle was a.. yeah, what mike said
[Lonestar1] Like Secret of Monkey Island?
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[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Exactly
[faded_glory] Lonestar OT sucks.....I just browse it when im at work :-)
[Guest11306] around the time of Sam and Max hit the road, etc
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] owned
[LoQtus] markos, you don't know what you're missing! I've been interrogating Mike for, what, an hour now?
[WarTourist] .told
[faded_glory] OT= jackass more jackassas and lots of ignorant assholes
[ACS_MarkG] locutus, i sure hope you have a log :)
[Lonestar1] That's the American Way!
[ACS_MarkG] although i thinkconnor's script is loging as well
[ACS_MarkG] mike, i got the map!
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Cool
[LoQtus] connor said he's loggin it...
[faded_glory] anybody here from Call to Power PBEM?????
[faded_glory] anybody?
[faded_glory] guess not...
[Lonestar1] C'mon, as if Firaxians are going to talk about THAT blasphemy
[faded_glory] no was hoping somebody from PBEM would be here... Talk about matters of the state :-)
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] I never played ctp
[Lonestar1] I'm sure Meier hits them with a baseball bat if they mention CTP :)
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] I did play CTP once -- they didn't have civ for linux ;-(
[LoQtus] shame on you, Mike ;)
[Lonestar1] Just kidding
[LoQtus] at least you should have tried: know your enemy ;)
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] I'm sure its a great game tho
[faded_glory] CTP sucks
[Lonestar1] No. It isn't.
[ACS_MarkG] 16kb zipped. sweet guys :)
[faded_glory] jsut PBEM CTP is the best :-)
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Yeah the maps aren't compressed so they get a lot smaller
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] But it's only 250k uncompressed
[Lonestar1] Seriously, Activisions CTP team was nothing Copared to the Meier/Reynolds team, and problem nothing compared to y'all
[faded_glory] How long till MP patch/ EP for Civ3?????
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] That I don't know....
[LoQtus] lonestar: i bet you can't name 3 member of the activision team, so don't judge them like that
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] ditto
[faded_glory] You guys arent going to jump ship like the dudes at Crap-tiv-sion are you? ;-)?
[Lonestar1] ;
[Mercator] any chance we´ll be seeing the civ3 map format from Firaxis?
[LoQtus] the failure of ctp was can be blamed on beancounters not on programmers
[Lonestar1] If you say so.
[faded_glory] hey...a mouse brb
[Guest11306] planning on making it a free patch/ep, or is it leaning towards a retail thing? (the MP)
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Do you mean the details of the map file format?
[Mercator] yep
[LoQtus] good q, merc
[Guest11306] not that I care.. have it preordered, picking it up in 45 =P
[Mercator] that´ll make making a utility far easier :)
[faded_glory] Hey locutus is that you?????
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Hmmm... I doubt we'd release that but you never know... besides, I'm sure som eof you more industriuous folk can crack the format -- it's not too tricky...
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] dude, we're just programmers, all those decisions are made by other people. We don't know a thing.
[LoQtus] yep, that's me :)
[faded_glory] Did you have any luck with CTP2 SLIC?
[Lonestar1] Locutus, I did not care for your answer to my questions on the OT
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Not that I support hacking....
[tulcas] has there been any talk of the amb format used for the sound?
[Mercator] undoubtdely, is it much more difficult than the civ2 format?
