Civ3 1.21 Chat Friday, April 19, 2002
2 Months and 4 days after the second, the third
civ3 patch was released and we were right here to share our experiences from the changes along
with several Firaxians
In red, the operator. In
blue, Firaxis team members. Many thanks to
Jeff Morris, Dan Magaha, Soren Johnson, Javier Sobrado and Mike Breitkreutz
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[GHOB] so if i put a tank with 20 HP bonus points and put four of them in an army
[GHOB] would the game still show those in the health bar?
[GHOB] and count them?
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] It'll display them all...
[ACS_MarkG] for newcomers: the chat is moderated. those with mirc can join the the open channel #apolytonpublic
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] good or ill
[GHOB] excellent :)
[Ger-LEN] can anybody read my messages?
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] yep
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] y
[Ger-LEN] k
[Dan_Magaha_FIRAXIS] your mike is hot!
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[Ger-LEN] what about the ki diplomacy - anyplan making it better?
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] ki?
[Gramphos] Who's in charge of Civilopedia links? ;)
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[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] me
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] got some bugs for me?
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[GHOB] this question or suggestion was made before, is there a way to make an option available for mediating a peace deal
[GHOB] b/w two waring civs?
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[Ger-LEN] computer diplo isnt an good substitution for mp
[SorenJohnson] most of the game features (such as diplomacy) are not going to undergo major revision because we don't want to introduce bugs/exploits into the game at this late point...
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] True
[GER-Hendrik_the_Great] I read that the german version mods/scenarios and english ones are not compatibel, why is this?
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[ACS_MarkG] REQUEST: do NOT send private messages to Firaxians. it's a disturbance and they will not be answered. thank you
[Gramphos] There is an offset error of the links due to Resources being linked to as MENU_GoodsMENU_Game_Concepts
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[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] Wierd...email me the details...jmorris@firaxis.com
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[Ger-LEN] so no better features for any parts of the game :( ?
[GHOB] once again a question asked before regarding the minimap :) i used to create scenarios for age of empires
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] Well, we're not redoing culture for instance, but tweaks etc are possible
[GHOB] and the lag of mini map in civ3 is very hard
[SorenJohnson] at this point, most the new features (such as bomabrd-kill) will appear via the editor...
[GHOB] will a fix be available in the next patch?
[gkg] how about being able to go to city when it's in a disorder?
[Gramphos] It isn't mush more then that, all after are one less Game Concepts=MENU_INDEX and so on, Resource Index can't be linked to.
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] Fix for what?
[SorenJohnson] tweaks will always be possible...
[GHOB] minimap in the editor ;)
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[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] ...no comment
[GHOB] hehe
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[Gramphos] Can you add a cancel button in the goto city dialog for the next patch?
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[ACS_MarkG] i'm leaving gramphos since he's a staff member and all :)
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] Sure...I'll add it to the list right now.
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[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] Gramphos is good...
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[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] Wish he wasn't outside the US...we could use him on the Beta team...
[ACS_MarkG] Jeff, can you explain us the development model(i think you did in a previous chat but it's good to repeat). who payed your salaries before the release, who does now?
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[Gramphos] I'm both outside US and under the age.
[Godking] Gramphos, was that a promotion?
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[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] We get advances from publishers for specific products, which pay for all development. Upon ship we pay back those advances with royalties before we get a cut ourselves. The development we're doing now is funded by unannounced projects
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[ACS_MarkG] Welcome Javier!
[ACS_MarkG] is Dan coming back?
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[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] He's got plans
[Javier_Sobrado_FIRAXIS] thanks ;-)
[Godking] What, if you are able to say, are the future projects you have planned for Civ 3 (ie expansion packs)?
[ACS_MarkG] so unless you plan an expansion you're paying for the patches yourself? :)
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] Regretably nothing
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[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] We need to be funded to do development on civ...simple as that
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[SorenJohnson] to a certain extent, patches fund themselves in future sales...
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[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] And there's always gold editions
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] You'd be amazed how many bonuses have been fueled by the Civil War Collection
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[ACS_MarkG] do you also get $ for those 5$ versions of smac (no box, a manual and a cd)?
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[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] The percentage goes up, but the amount goes down...after a certain price point, no
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[Hagbart] Soren: Will we get a minimap in the Editor?
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] No comment
[ixnay37] what is the point of the "current civ" thing in the editor as of now? I can see how in future upgrades it will be useful for placing units, cities, and whatnot, but I can't seem to find anything to use it for now except to place barbarian tribes with different names, since placing starting locations with current civ didn't seem to affect anything.
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] Beer?
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] Sorry...mike b?
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[Hagbart] What about an ability to make flat maps?
[Harold25] Are any type of unit supposed to offer interdiction fire from a fortress?
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] No comment
[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] isnay37: You're absolutely right. It is only useful for placing specific barbarian tribes at the moment.
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] sorry...but if it's more than a week out, no comment...
[Gramphos] Will buildings some time in the future be selectable as prequires for units?
[Hagbart] Will u continue to improve the Editor in the future?
[ixnay37] thanks
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] That is the plan
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[Hetairoi22] Soren: How much have you decreased AI tech trading`?
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[Immortal_Wombat] Will Mike allow us a scripting language if we promise to create more than bugs? ;)
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[ACS_MarkG] for newcomers: the chat is moderated. voice is given in groups alphabetically. those with mirc can join the the open channel #apolytonpublic
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[Hagbart] The tech trading seems fine to me now
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[ACS_MarkG] Mike you ought at some of the ctp2 mods :)
[Hagbart] will u make an xp?
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[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] no comment
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[Hagbart] :(
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[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] sorry....ultimately it's the only safe answer there is
[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] for questins like that
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[Harold25] does the fortress offer interdiction fire to all units?
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[ACS_MarkG] how do you judge all the latest "moopera"? :)
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[Gramphos] What is specific if you give a unit the flag leader?
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[Hagbart] Do u like beer?
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[Mike_Breitkreutz_FIRAXIS] Hagbart - Yes
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[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] It reminds me of SMAC....you get something by being so candid, but it has some built in risks. Firaxis doesn't have it's own forums for instance, which was directly related to SMAC experience. I wish them the best regardless..
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[Hagbart] [xwho] ye like why not bring out a dvd with all different language versions in ONE!
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[Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS] Since there isn't localized movies, all versions coudl probably fit on the same CD....no plans though
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[ACS_MarkG] But everyone remembers the initial smac forums with good memories... and the owo were unmoderated(huge difference)...
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[ACS_MarkG] but mainly i'm talking about people geting laid off at this time of the production
[Immortal_Wombat] is that a no on the scripting language, despite all the mods to display how great it is?
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[Hagbart] Will u make it possible to add units in a future patch?
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