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onodera
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I've been reading a site about tablet PCs and found this list of planned usage of the aforementioned devices:
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At school as a high school guidance counselor
-Creating schedules for students via ink
-Keeping ink notes on students regarding various issues
-Note taking during staff and inservice meetings
-Presentations in classrooms to students
At home
-All of my everyday computing tasks: e-mail, IM, etc.
-Keeping track of to-do lists, grocery lists
-Note taking during a weekly Bible study
-Daily news reading and blogging

Weekly Bible study? What's that? How do you do that? I've thought it had been studied and pulled apart to death already.

PS I guess the fact that it's done by a high school guidance counsellor appalled me the most.

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Why is it appalling that a high school guidance counselor practices his own religion at home?

Wiki's definition:

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In Christianity, Bible study is the study of the Bible by ordinary people as a personal religious or spiritual practice.

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Lots of people are religious Christians, news at 11.

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I guess there might be a confusion with the term bible study. Not so much rigor research, but more like studying the bible, as in reading it, discussing it, just normal people. Not trying to come up with new knowledge per se, but learning it themselves and just talking about it. That's bible study. No big deal.

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Why is it appalling that a high school guidance counselor practices his own religion at home?

Well, appalling might be a wrong word, but I'd prefer my kids to be counselled by a less religious person. Someone who spends time every week to study the bible or the quran or the talmud is not someone I want to teach or guide my children.

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Oh, do high school guidance counselors have important jobs in Russia?

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Well, appalling might be a wrong word, but I'd prefer my kids to be counselled by a less religious person. Someone who spends time every week to study the bible or the quran or the talmud is not someone I want to teach or guide my children.


Presumably devout Christians feel the opposite. So why should we favor you?

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Originally posted by onodera
Well, appalling might be a wrong word, but I'd prefer my kids to be counselled by a less religious person. Someone who spends time every week to study the bible or the quran or the talmud is not someone I want to teach or guide my children.


The first Rome fell to "heresy," the second to the Turks, and the third to atheism.

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The first Rome fell to "heresy," the second to the Turks, and the third to atheism.


It'd be more accurate to say the third Rome fell to communism, but otherwise, yeah. If we could just get our act together and unify (and the collapse of the U.S. could be put off) I'd have high hopes for the American church.

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Well, atheism through communism. Six of one, and half a dozen of the other, so to speak.

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Well, appalling might be a wrong word, but I'd prefer my kids to be counselled by a less religious person. Someone who spends time every week to study the bible or the quran or the talmud is not someone I want to teach or guide my children.


This is a very intolerant prejudice. As long as this counselor is keeping his religion out of the workplace (as most people do) it's fine. Weekly bible study is certainly not the worst thing this person could be doing in their free time.


People who judge others based on their religious beliefs

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What in the name of god is bible study?


Also, bacon & eggs w/ hashed browns on the side, what in the name of God is that?

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quote:
Originally posted by onodera

Well, appalling might be a wrong word, but I'd prefer my kids to be counselled by a less religious person. Someone who spends time every week to study the bible or the quran or the talmud is not someone I want to teach or guide my children.


Your kid probably wouldn't be able to go to school in the US then.

Technically, Church can be Bible study. Would you prefer that teachers not go to church? Seems kinda close-minded.

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Weekly Bible study? What's that? How do you do that? I've thought it had been studied and pulled apart to death already.


You really don't know?

Generally what happens is a group of people pick a book of the bible to read and discuss, going through a chapter or so a session.

I did that myself with a good friend for the book of Romans, and you really get much more out of the bible through bible study then you would get if you read it just on your own.

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Weekly Bible study? What's that? How do you do that? I've thought it had been studied and pulled apart to death already.


Christians study it weekly to re-interpret it so it can better fit their prejudices and agenda. It's always changing.

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Well, appalling might be a wrong word, but I'd prefer my kids to be counselled by a less religious person. Someone who spends time every week to study the bible or the quran or the talmud is not someone I want to teach or guide my children.


Every week? My gosh. Bible study is in addition to attending church every Sunday. You don't even know the depths of their depravity.

I know lots of folks who read some every day and make it a habit. Once a week is nothing, and anyone who goes to church every week will get their dose.

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Protestants study it weekly to re-interpret it so it can better fit their prejudices and agenda. It's always changing


I've yet to go to a Catholic bible study. They prefer rosaries...

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quote:
Originally posted by onodera

Well, appalling might be a wrong word, but I'd prefer my kids to be counselled by a less religious person. Someone who spends time every week to study the bible or the quran or the talmud is not someone I want to teach or guide my children.



I can think of many many many other qualities that I would care about more than if a guidance counsellor subscribed to a particular religion in their OWN time.

If a group of Christiand objected to an athiest guidance counsellor I would bet you would find their discrimination objectionable.

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The first Rome fell to "heresy," the second to the Turks, and the third to atheism.


To heresy? The First Rome fell to the Goths. The second to the Turks and the Third to communism.

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Your kid probably wouldn't be able to go to school in the US then.

Technically, Church can be Bible study. Would you prefer that teachers not go to church? Seems kinda close-minded.

YMMV, but I think a tolerable level of religiousness is going to church a couple times a year, like, to bless your cake and eggs before Easter and one more time when you're passing by, to light a candle. Just because it is some sort of a custom or a ritual.
People who go to church every week are considered dangerously religious in my book.

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People who judge others based on their religious beliefs

QFT.

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QFT.

Religious people who judge other people all the ****ing time.
Religious people who enact secular law to enforce their bigoted beliefs.

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I actually gave a couple of bible studies in my youth. This gives me a certain insight into what it is.

Here goes...

A 'bible study' is when a group of people get together for the express purpose of... studying the bible.


onodera, you amaze me sometimes.

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quote:
Originally posted by onodera
YMMV, but I think a tolerable level of religiousness is going to church a couple times a year, like, to bless your cake and eggs before Easter and one more time when you're passing by, to light a candle. Just because it is some sort of a custom or a ritual.
People who go to church every week are considered dangerously religious in my book.


Unfortunately, what's in "your book" doesn't count for much. In the theocratic United States, religionists - jews, christians, mulisms - have almost all of the jobs.

onodera
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I still can't understand how you can study something that has existed for almost 2K years. It must've been picked apart and scrutinized by thousands of theologists (I guess you're supposed to study the spiritual content, not the discrepancies between the translations or logical fallacies and contradictions), surely there must be many derivative works like "The Bible and work ethic", "The Bible and sex", etc, how are you supposed to learn anything new and/or useful if thousands of people more prepared to do that have studied it already?

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I still can't understand how you can study something that has existed for almost 2K years.


They study it for their personal understanding only.

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You have to understand that in the US, there isn't a unifying national church that many Eastern European nations have.

The concept of "Bible Study" is popular with protestant churches who seek to define their identity with their own interpretation of the bible. Also, there are countless protestant sects that have emerged every since Europeans first arrived in North America. Religion is pretty fluid in the US. People are always leaving one domination in order to join another.

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