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Theben

	Deity Dance Dance for the Revolution!
	Jan 1970 time: 15:51

19-09-2008 22:33

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Now I've finally done it

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Yes, after many games of not finishing, either due to outpacing the AI or getting smacked around (or not getting that wonder!), I've decided to finish one that I should've quit long ago.

No reloads this time, if I didn't get the wonder I wanted I grit my teeth and dealt with it- and incidentally the monetary reward was often worth it. But the interesting thing about this game is that I started on a land mass alone, well away from ANY other civ. There was a smaller island at teh other end but I was not to meet anyone until the Age of Sail.

Now I figured I was doing "okay" for the most part until when I was working Civil Service I got the message someone had discovered Liberalism(!!). At that point I figured should give up but decided to keep going. Finally a Korean caravel shows up and I note I'm at least a dozen techs behind. To make a long story short(er) there were 2 other land masses out there, one small and uninhabited except by barbs, and a HUGE landmass occupied by everyone else. But teching hard and after the occasional trade I've found myself only 1 tech behind the current leader. One of the more interesting games.

The funny part about it is that the European civs are on the west and the Asian civs east, and I'm playing the Native Americans.

Jaybe

	Emperor Henderson, NV USA
	Sep 2001 time: 12:51

19-09-2008 23:51

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OMG, what a setup! Did you do random map styles?
I like my 2-hemispheres setup (greater numbers seemed awkward & contrived when I tried them).

As one who almost always finishes a game, "enjoying the journey" and all that scrap, I must offer my congratulations and "it's about TIME!" comments.

Shogun Gunner

	Emperor Potomac Falls, Virginia
	Oct 2000 time: 15:51

20-09-2008 01:00 | www

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Nice work Theben...I have to admit that I have more than my fair share of "abandoned games" It is rewarding to finish a game where you have to battle to keep pace.

Thanks for sharing this...interesting dynamic regarding "East versus West"

Theben

	Deity Dance Dance for the Revolution!
	Jan 1970 time: 15:51

20-09-2008 03:36

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It's a fractal map... I've become quite fond of them.

I was able to build the Great Wall early which helped immensely. I doubt I'd have had as much luck if I had to deal with the barbs too!
The real downside of not having neighbors was I got the "Tower Shield" event... talk about wasted.

On the plus side I'm still able to "defend" my cities with Dog Soldiers.

Theben

	Deity Dance Dance for the Revolution!
	Jan 1970 time: 15:51

20-09-2008 03:42

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I noticed another thing new (for me), upgrade unit THEN promote. I won the race to Fascism and got the free GG. Attached him to a unit to build West Point, used free upgrade from Dog Soldier to Infantry and then applied promotions, I didn't lose the points. Then again IIRC GG units don't lose those points? I wonder if it'd work for reg units.

Jaybe

	Emperor Henderson, NV USA
	Sep 2001 time: 12:51

20-09-2008 11:45

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Put an end to popups!

Great General'd units retain all their experience points throughout all their (free) upgrades, yes.
Is that what you were referring to?

Diadem

	Prince Netherlands
	Nov 2005 time: 21:51

20-09-2008 12:03

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Here too someone who almost never finishes games.

I recently played 2 rounds of the civ4 tri-league and finished those. But those were my first 2 finished games in aaages. It's kind of fun to finish a game. But also an amazing amount of work!

Maybe I should finish that deity game I was playing a few weeks back though... Had a very good empire and just finished The Internet to reach a tech lead on all AIs. Should be a win if I can find the patience to finish it.

snoopy369

	Technical Assistant Of the Peanuts Gallery
	Apr 2004 time: 14:51

20-09-2008 14:02

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GG units don't lose their points, yes. A regular unit would drop down to 010.

Krill

	Deity of Spam
	Dec 2003 time: 20:51

20-09-2008 20:40

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4000BC save please.

Blaupanzer

	King Fairfax, VA
	Oct 2000 time: 15:51

01-10-2008 19:06

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I'm another who usually drops the game if too far behind (often) or ahead (rarely). Current game playing fractal very similar to yours with me alone on one medium sized continent, 7 others on one large continent, and one other on a smallish continent with coastal overlap with the large one. Catching up on science, passing most at gunpowder and astronomy. The Civ that was alone on that other continent, the Maya have a 5 tech lead, at least, and most of the Wonders. Playing Ethiopia so good claim on own continent and can afford the cities -- number 2 in pop, number 3 in land, number 5 in score, rising in power and soldiers (number 3 at moment). On big continent, Med/Middle Eastern types to my west and Nasty types -- Ragnar/Monty/Isabella to my East. Been lots of fighting over there with lots of ruins.

Anyway, Theban, I think I will follow your inspiration and play this one out.

Unimatrix11

	Prince
	Nov 2005 time: 20:51

02-10-2008 11:06

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The name is Theben - Theban is someone else...

Sir Og

	Prince Lurking in Stara Zagora, Bulgaria
	Jun 2001 time: 22:51

02-10-2008 12:19

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Re: Now I've finally done it

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Originally posted by Theben
Yes, after many games of not finishing, either due to outpacing the AI or getting smacked around (or not getting that wonder!), I've decided to finish one that I should've quit long ago.

No reloads this time, if I didn't get the wonder I wanted I grit my teeth and dealt with it- and incidentally the monetary reward was often worth it. But the interesting thing about this game is that I started on a land mass alone, well away from ANY other civ. There was a smaller island at teh other end but I was not to meet anyone until the Age of Sail.

Now I figured I was doing "okay" for the most part until when I was working Civil Service I got the message someone had discovered Liberalism(!!). At that point I figured should give up but decided to keep going. Finally a Korean caravel shows up and I note I'm at least a dozen techs behind. To make a long story short(er) there were 2 other land masses out there, one small and uninhabited except by barbs, and a HUGE landmass occupied by everyone else. But teching hard and after the occasional trade I've found myself only 1 tech behind the current leader. One of the more interesting games.

The funny part about it is that the European civs are on the west and the Asian civs east, and I'm playing the Native Americans.

What difficulty and what is your rank in number of soldiers ("F9" screen)?
I should definately try playing a loosing game untill the end.

Blaupanzer

	King Fairfax, VA
	Oct 2000 time: 15:51

02-10-2008 16:58

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quote:
Originally posted by Unimatrix11
The name is Theben - Theban is someone else...

Made this error before, I would hope I'll learn.

Boris Godunov

	King Portland, OR
	Aug 2001 time: 12:51

03-10-2008 20:41

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I can't think of the last time I played a Civ4 game without popping into the World Editor to do spot of cheating. I'm not sure how to break the habit now.

Blaupanzer

	King Fairfax, VA
	Oct 2000 time: 15:51

06-10-2008 14:40

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Just ... don't ... do ... it! You can hold yourself back if you try, Boris. Of course, it's not as fun.

Last edited by Blaupanzer on 07-10-2008 at 19:38

rah

	Co-Owner/ Administrator (Reasonable One) Lord of the Ferrets
	Nov 1999 time: 14:51

06-10-2008 20:34

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Put an end to popups!

The easiest way to break that habit is to play MP.

Works every time.

Boris Godunov

	King Portland, OR
	Aug 2001 time: 12:51

08-10-2008 00:21

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quote:
Originally posted by rah
The easiest way to break that habit is to play MP.

Works every time.

But I'm scared!

Theben

	Deity Dance Dance for the Revolution!
	Jan 1970 time: 15:51

08-10-2008 04:48

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quote:
Originally posted by Sir Og
What difficulty and what is your rank in number of soldiers ("F9" screen)?
I should definately try playing a loosing game untill the end.

Monarch, and I can't check b/c I played the game on a computer that wasn't mine and uploaded the file to my email account. This computer isn't able to handle civ4, but I just recently got another comp that does have 3.17 and should be hooked up by this weekend. In the meantime I had an even more interesting game that I just finished, with plenty of saves, including a 4000 BC. One that deserves it's own thread with pictures.

quote:
The name is Theben - Theban is someone else...

Yes, by misspelling my name long enough and often enough they've become true. Soon I'll amass enough to take over THE WORLD!!!! HA HA HAAAA!!!

Willem

	Emperor Canada
	Dec 2001 time: 12:51

08-10-2008 06:06

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quote:
Originally posted by Blaupanzer
I'm another who usually drops the game if too far behind (often) or ahead (rarely).

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one. I'll even quit if I don't get Horses or Copper early on, or get stuck with crappy terrain. Which seems to happen quite often now, more so since BtS came out.

Hauptman

	Prince San Diego CA
	Nov 2005 time: 12:51

08-10-2008 08:17

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Ive often found games that "look" bad easilly turn into victories... By the endgame the AIs usually cannot keep up with me in tech or production. I've had very few close calls on monarch, and win most emporers!~

Blaupanzer

	King Fairfax, VA
	Oct 2000 time: 15:51

27-10-2008 19:10

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So, Theben, were you able to pull the original game out? The public demands to know!

In my case, eventually an almost irresistable SOD showed up. We fought hard with my capitol changing hands twice before he was whittled down. Just then an even bigger SOD showed up from his vassal and a dozen fresh, more modern units showed up as well. My forces were exhausted, and my other neighbor was accumulating forces in menacing places on my border. Having already lost 2 of 12 cities and with another vassal yet to hear from, I did in fact quit. The loss of the city that was my capitol in a condition where I cannot take it back in near-term is more than enough reason to quit, I believe.

Garth Vader

	King Saskatoon, SK, CA
	Oct 1999 time: 14:51

27-10-2008 19:34

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quote:
Originally posted by rah
The easiest way to break that habit is to play MP.

Works every time.

It doesn't help with the SP cheating. I just played some MP with a friend when he was out for Thanksgiving, and aside from me griping a few times about wanting to pop into the editor I didn't miss it that much.

I started a new SP game after that and I am right back on the cheat train.

rah

	Co-Owner/ Administrator (Reasonable One) Lord of the Ferrets
	Nov 1999 time: 14:51

27-10-2008 20:35

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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I guess there's a joke about the dark side in there somewhere, but I won't go there.

Garth Vader

	King Saskatoon, SK, CA
	Oct 1999 time: 14:51

27-10-2008 21:31

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Blaupanzer

	King Fairfax, VA
	Oct 2000 time: 15:51

30-10-2008 19:54

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The evils of addiction. "But it feels so good when I do, so bad when I don't."

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