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Asher
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The Canadian Federal Election will probably be October 14th Tired of ads?


Harper is going to bring down his own government and call an election, presumably because the Liberals are running around with their heads cut off.

I may have to end my boycott of the voting process, if only because the lobby of my building is a polling station and I need to vote against Stephane "YOU THINK IT IS EASY TO MAKE PRIORITIES?" Dion.

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Hey! No fair! We scheduled ours first!

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I think Dion's "Green Shift" plan is DOA as predicted. The Liberals plan to make their central issue "Cultural funding". Presumably because Harper pulled the plug on funding for bands like "Holy ****" to tour Norway.

So hopeless...

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And yet, all it will get him is another minority. Nothing like annoying campaign ads and millions of dollars to get right back to where we are today.

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And yet, all it will get him is another minority. Nothing like annoying campaign ads and millions of dollars to get right back to where we are today.


That's not true -- if he wins another minority (likely), he'll probably have another couple years left before the next election.

The Liberals have been playing all high and mighty over the past few months, stalling everything and threatening to pull the plug...by embarrassing the Liberals in this election, they'll be thrown into further disarray and give Harper a stronger mandate for the next few years.

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Time to bring back the Rhino party!

http://rhinoparty.com/

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Time to bring back the Rhino party!

http://rhinoparty.com/


Just as I was thinking of how great it would be if the Rhinos were still around I scrolled down and saw your post. I'm thinking this time around it would be fun to try and steal a ballot as a souvenir. Is that illegal?

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Just as I was thinking of how great it would be if the Rhinos were still around I scrolled down and saw your post. I'm thinking this time around it would be fun to try and steal a ballot as a souvenir. Is that illegal?



Unfortunately it is illegal.

quote:

167. (1) No person shall

* (a) apply for a ballot in a name that is not his or her own;


* (b) use a forged ballot;


* (c) knowing that he or she is without authority under this Act to do so, provide a ballot to any person; or


* (d) knowing that he or she is without authority under this Act to do so, have a ballot in his or her possession.


Other prohibitions

(2) No person shall wilfully

* (a) alter, deface or destroy a ballot or the initials of the deputy returning officer signed on a ballot;


* (b) put or cause to be put into a ballot box a ballot or other paper otherwise than as provided by this Act;


* (c) take a ballot out of the polling station; or


* (d) destroy, take, open or otherwise interfere with a ballot box or book or packet of ballots.


http://www.elections.ca/content.asp...ly=false#sec167

(voting while wearing a clown suit OTOH, is legal)

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Hmm... looks like I'll be voting early and often this fall (assuming I remember to register in the States too).

edit: Westmount-Ville-Marie is having a by-election next week too.

Last edited by Victor Galis on 30-08-2008 at 01:43

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The Canadian Federal Election will probably be October 14th


Tradition has a lot going for it, doesn't it? Oh, wait. There is no tradition. Never mind.

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What?

Asher
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PM's plan for Oct. 14 vote hits snag

BRIAN LAGHI AND DANIEL LEBLANC

Globe and Mail Update

August 29, 2008 at 9:36 PM EDT

OTTAWA — Canada's largest Jewish organization has asked Prime Minister Stephen Harper to reject plans to call a federal election for Oct. 14, which is a Jewish holiday.

The Canadian Jewish Congress has written a letter to the Prime Minister, warning that holding an election during Sukkot would make it difficult for some Jews to get to the polls and would rob political parties of workers. Mr. Harper also might suffer a backlash from a group of influential voters he has worked hard to court.

“This [Oct. 14] is the first day of the major Jewish festival of Sukkot, an important holy day on our community's calendar,” said the letter from CJC chief executive Bernie Farber. “An election on that day would have a very adverse impact on the Jewish electorate, as well as scrutineers, drivers, other campaign and Elections Canada volunteers.”

Sukkot is a seven-day holiday, but tradition restrains the activities of many Jews on the first two days.

“I want to emphasize the importance of that date as a holy day, especially in light of the fact that we did send a note to the Prime Minister's Office about it,” Mr. Farber said.

Liberal MP Susan Kadis, whose Toronto riding of Thornhill has a large concentration of Jewish voters and is being targeted by the Conservatives, said an Oct. 14 election date “would be inappropriate, insensitive and disenfranchise parts of the Jewish community.”

Faced with a similar problem last year, Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty moved the date of the provincial election by six days to avoid a conflict with the Jewish holiday of Shemini Atzeret.

A senior Tory official speaking on behalf of the Prime Minister conceded that Oct. 14 “does present challenges in terms of election timing.

“But we have large-scale advance polls which are available,” the official said. “You can also go to a returning office any day during a writ period to cast a ballot.”

The Prime Minister has not made a decision on when the election will be called, but his officials conceded Friday that the 14th “is the first big window.”

Moving the date from Oct. 14 could be sticky for the Prime Minister. By law, elections must be held on Mondays, or on Tuesdays in case of a holiday. Since Oct. 13 is Thanksgiving Monday, the election would take place on the 14th, the date of the Jewish holy day.

Postponing the election another week to Monday, Oct. 20th would force Mr. Harper to spend the last three days of the campaign hosting more than 50 world leaders meeting in Quebec for la Francophonie.

Meanwhile, a Tory official said Friday the party will promise no major programs or tax cuts in a coming campaign and hopes to focus the race on who is best to deal with the economy.

“Love him or hate him, our Prime Minister knows where he stands on the issues and will offer Canadians certainty,” a senior Tory official said.

The official said an election call could come on any day between Tuesday and Sept. 7. However, informed sources pegged Sept. 7 as the most likely date.

The official said the Tories' plan is to portray their leader as a firm hand in dealing with the country's economy and attack Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion for his Green Shift plan.

That idea, which Mr. Dion has spent the summer selling to Canadians, would apply a tax on the use of fossil fuels while at the same time cutting income and corporate taxes.

Statistics Canada figures released Friday show the country has the weakest economy since the 1991 recession. Canada avoided a recession by posting economic growth of 0.3 per cent in the last three months, after a 0.8 per cent decline at an annual rate in the previous quarter.

The numbers were especially bad in the manufacturing and lumber sectors that are so important to the economies of Ontario, Quebec and British Columbia, where the Conservatives need to gain seats to form a majority.

But there was no sign that Mr. Harper is retreating from his plan to send Canada to the polls after a one-hour meeting with Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe.

“I have concluded that Mr. Harper … absolutely wants to go to an election,” Mr. Duceppe told reporters.

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Wasn't fixed election dates something Harper wanted? Now he wants to call an election because... what, he doesn't feel like facing the Commons?

Does the man actually stand for anything and stick by it?

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You're aware he's a politician, yes?

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What?

I was talking about "will probably be" on such and such date. It's not like Halloween or Christmas, or other elections.

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quote:
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You're aware he's a politician, yes?


I don't suppose that we should accept that politicians be so craven in matters of principle.

The next time the rest of the country laughs at the yokels in Alberta and other parts of the West who want change in how things work in Ottawa, we can all chuckle along as one of our own provided all the example needed for the comedy.

Asher
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Tired of ads?


I think the silliness was in crafting the law in the first place. I thought everyone understood the government would fall before.

They're not breaking that law anyway. It set a maximum date in office alone.

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So it would seem that the two of you disagree. State your cases. Rules of Order apply.

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The idea was to prevent or deter governments from manipulating election dates to suit themselves. It was not to prevent Parliament from functioning the way it is supposed to (confidence motions).

What Harper seems intent on doing makes the legislation a high grade of asswipe. Why take up the time of Parliament to consider it in the first place?

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politicking

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Politicking, or politics as usual, means that we will be ruled by Ontario and Quebec indefinitely as we have in the past into the future.

The best hope for the West was that principles and what was right would resonate at some point with people in Central Canada.

How seriously do you think people in Toronto and Montreal should take us when our own politicians can't last past the term in which they manage to pass a law based on principle before breaking it?

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I think you're making way too much out of it. Most people out here didn't even know the bill existed until a bunch of right wingers from Alberta started making a ruckus about it last week.

It doesn't bother many people. It's a non-issue. Don't know why you're getting worked up. Are people in Alberta ticked about it? Because people here are simply indifferent.

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It bothers me, because it shows me that Harper is just another common slut for power from Ottawa.

The differences between he and Dion are in ad campaigns. I can have as much faith in either.

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At least Dion was honest enough to run as a Liberal to begin with.

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Harper's not right wing enough for you?

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Hardly. Jack Layton is a preferable candidate at the moment. At least he might actually do what he says he stands for.

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