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bastain
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Hi there,

we tried to play CTP2 via Internet, but there is only one working server and we did not manage to see us in the lobby. So we tried Hamachi, but its not working either. Did somebody try CTP2 and Hamachi and get a working connection. It would be great if somebody could tell me how!

Thanx!
bastian

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Hi bastain, I assume you're using CtP2 with the Activision 1.11 patch installed?

Did you already install the fixed DLL files to allow Windows 2000/XP users to play against each other? You can find those fixes in this post (Q67):

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...633#post3719605

bastain
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Yes, we used the patched-Version from Activision, and both machines are running with WinXP....but got no problems playing via LAN. Where is the difference with the dll? Is Hamachi working via "Internet-LAN"?

Is the dll included in the Apolyton-Edition?

Thanx for your support!
Bastian

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Originally posted by bastain
Yes, we used the patched-Version from Activision, and both machines are running with WinXP....but got no problems playing via LAN. Where is the difference with the dll? Is Hamachi working via "Internet-LAN"?


When you replace the dlls I would first try playing on the one remaining server. If that doesn't work then try Hamachi.

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Is the dll included in the Apolyton-Edition?


It is, but you may find bugs remaining in multi-player with AE. Of course you can still try it, and report any bugs you find in this thread:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=172035

bastain
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We tried the Apolyton-Edition.

We both got the 1.11 installed before installing the Apolyton-Edition.

We used the (one and only) Server that is available via Internet-Play. We saw each other in the lobby. But when we try to start the game, both games crashed without warning. We started a NEW game, not an old saved game.

Any ideas?

Two more questions:

There is no possibility for Direct-IP-Play?

Can I play CTP2 in Window-Mode?

Bastian

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quote:
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We tried the Apolyton-Edition.

We both got the 1.11 installed before installing the Apolyton-Edition.

We used the (one and only) Server that is available via Internet-Play. We saw each other in the lobby. But when we try to start the game, both games crashed without warning. We started a NEW game, not an old saved game.


That is a really old Apolyton Edition. The one in my signature is the latest.

Also you don't need to install the 1.11 patch if you use the Apolyton Edition.

If you get the same crash with the latest AE, then just use the 1.11 patched game and just the new dlls.

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There is no possibility for Direct-IP-Play?


No.

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Can I play CTP2 in Window-Mode?


No.

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bastain
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Hmm...sorry, I didn't find the new version (via your signature). I googled some time but found only older version than mine (12/07). Would you please give me a direct link, so I can look after new versions ? Thanx!

Where can I find the dlls. In the thread mentioned above, the Q67-entry is empty...

Bastian

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Hmm...sorry, I didn't find the new version (via your signature). I googled some time but found only older version than mine (12/07). Would you please give me a direct link, so I can look after new versions ? Thanx!


Latest AE:

Edit: Removed link, for the latest Apolyton Edition click here.

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Where can I find the dlls. In the thread mentioned above, the Q67-entry is empty...


DLL's:

http://apolyton.net/forums/attachme...&postid=3719605

But remember you don't need these dll's if you're using the AE, I think they're already included in the AE.

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bastain
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Many thanx!

Is there an official Website too, where I can find the newest Playtest-Version of AE?

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Many thanx!

Is there an official Website too, where I can find the newest Playtest-Version of AE?


You're already on the "official" site

The newest AE will always be in the first post of the latest "Playtest" thread in this forum:

http://apolyton.net/forums/forumdis...?s=&forumid=213

or in my signature.

bastain
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Maybe I need some glasses...but I do not find the Download. Not in the thread, not on your site.

I see...."Here is the latest revision 849:" in the thread.....but no download-Link.

On your site, I see: "Apolyton Edition, User Manual, Credits...." but no download-Link for the latest Archive.

Please be my glasses

Bastian

P.S.: Btw...I just started a PBEM-Game with a friend. Can I use the upcoming releases with that Game? Will it be compatible?

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Maybe I need some glasses...but I do not find the Download. Not in the thread, not on your site.

I see...."Here is the latest revision 849:" in the thread.....but no download-Link.

On your site, I see: "Apolyton Edition, User Manual, Credits...." but no download-Link for the latest Archive.


It's in my signature (the writing under each my posts), not my website

Latest AE archive:

Edit: Removed link, for the latest Apolyton Edition click here.

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P.S.: Btw...I just started a PBEM-Game with a friend. Can I use the upcoming releases with that Game? Will it be compatible?


If the PBEM game was started with the CtP2 Apolyton Edition it should be fine.

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quote:
Originally posted by bastain
I see...."Here is the latest revision 849:" in the thread.....but no download-Link.


Looks like I thought it was enough just to quote the latest release post with the link, unfortunately the quotes appear in blue and the links appear in blue, too.

Anyway I fixed that post.

-Martin

bastain
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Since the new version of AE, there is a "bug" at the end of the turn in PBEM-Game. In the Message-Popup-Window after my turn stands "unserer großen Herscherin" on one bitton and "zeist" on the other.

In the last version (german version too) stands "Spiel beenden" (end game) and somethin else.

Weird...

Bastian

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Since the new version of AE, there is a "bug" at the end of the turn in PBEM-Game. In the Message-Popup-Window after my turn stands "unserer großen Herscherin" on one bitton and "zeist" on the other.

In the last version (german version too) stands "Spiel beenden" (end game) and somethin else.

Weird...

Bastian

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That's a problem with the slic engine, you have to reloadslic to make it work again. To do that, just open the chat window by typing the apostrophe key (') and enter: /reloadslic

-Martin

bastain
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If you get the same crash with the latest AE, then just use the 1.11 patched game and just the new dlls.


Ok....yesterday my friend and I both installed CTP2 from scratch, didn't install the official patch and directly the newest AE-Edition. Further we installed the new servers.dat.

We connected via Internet-Game (911.alink.namesdepot.net was the only avaiable) and saw each other in the lobby. Then I setup a new game, my friend joined, I choose two computer-opponents, and let the game-setup as standard.

We both choose start game, screen went black, parts of the game-ui popped up, but before the map shows up we are both on the Windows-Dektop. No error-message, nothing.

-----NEXT TRY-------

In the next day we install the game again from scratch, install the official patch and use only the new dlls and the servers.dat.

I'll see and report...

Bastian

bastain
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Hmmm..... I removed CTP-AE from my HD and installed CTP from scratch (two times now), but the patch did not find the installed game. I installed it on d:\. I use d:\ everytime for my games, and used it already for ctp 2 (patched!).

My friend got the same problem (also got AE installed before), except if he tries to install it on C:\. I didn't try that...

Any ideas?


Could not play CTP2-AE (Internet), cause of the mentioned Crash.

Could not play CTP2-AE/CTP2 over Hamachi, cause we don't see each other ion the lobby.

Could not install CTP with 1.11 and DLLs cause of this new problem.

Hmm...it seems, that we have to use Civ 4.....no, I don't want to.

Any hints?

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quote:
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Hmmm..... I removed CTP-AE from my HD and installed CTP from scratch (two times now), but the patch did not find the installed game. I installed it on d:\. I use d:\ everytime for my games, and used it already for ctp 2 (patched!).

My friend got the same problem (also got AE installed before), except if he tries to install it on C:\. I didn't try that...

Any ideas?


You need to use the zip format patch instead then. All languages are here:

http://apolyton.net/dir/index.php?&t=sub_pages&cat=29

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Hmmm..... I removed CTP-AE from my HD and installed CTP from scratch (two times now)


This means you have also removed the crash.txt.

By the way you can have to copies of CTP2 on your computer, just copy the CTP2 directory. This way you can use the Apolyton Edition for single player.

However, we have to try to fix the crash. If the crash.txt doesn't help, I could you give the debug version, since this creates an extensive log.

-Martin

bastain
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Its no problem, I can install the AE-Version again and let it crash again And post the crash.txt.

Do you've got an idea, why the patch do not find the installed CTP-Version?

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Ok...here is my crash.txt

Version 2008-04-12
0x00618207 [?Packetize@NetCellList@@UAEXPAEAAG@Z + 0x177]
0x006337e1 [?ChunkList@Network@@QAEXGPAV?$PointerList@VPacketizer@@@@@Z + 0xb1]
0x0062be9d [?SetReady@Network@@QAEXG@Z + 0x53d]
0x0062ff30 [?ProcessNewPlayer@Network@@QAEXG@Z + 0x510]
0x00625bbf [?Unpacketize@NetReport@@UAEXGPAEG@Z + 0x4f]
0x0062b0fa [?PacketReady@Network@@UAEXHPAEH@Z + 0x8a]
0x00637cca [?Idle@NetThread@@UAE?AW4NET_ERR@@XZ + 0x1aa]
0x00629a94 [?Process@Network@@QAEXXZ + 0x1f4]
0x0040c535 [?Process@CivApp@@QAEHXZ + 0x105]
0x00406f84 [?CivMain@@YGHPAUHINSTANCE__@@0PADH@Z + 0x394]
0x004069e5 [WinMain@16 + 0x65]
0x007fe26c [WinMainCRTStartup + 0x134]
0x7c816d4f [__onexitbegin + 0x7be51bb7]

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Do you've got an idea, why the patch do not find the installed CTP-Version?


It usually happens on Windows XP/2000, but I don't know why the patch installer can't find the CtP2 directory.

Anyway, I gave you the link to download the patch in .zip form which avoids the problem.

bastain
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Thanx....

But before I try again reinstalling CTP2 I'll wait for Martins guesses about the crash of the Apolyton Edition. I think the AE should work for Multiplayer via Internet.

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But before I try again reinstalling CTP2 I'll wait for Martins guesses about the crash of the Apolyton Edition. I think the AE should work for Multiplayer via Internet.


Well I tried to locate the problem but no luck, I figured out that I have to establish some sort of dial up connection on my computer, although my router does it for me, so that I can start an internet game, with one player.

So I uploaded a new Apolyton Edition, which you can download from this page.

I tried it with one player for the start, allowing other players to join. I could start the game and no crash.

So I suggest to try it again. However if it works without crashing then I am a little bit worried since I didn't fixed the problem, so that might appear again in a future playtest.

If it crashes then I can give you the debug version and we can appoint a time for testing.

And by the way, I cleaned this thread from all the old playtest links. Well humans don't care about it, but robots do, and we want that they find the right stuff.

-Martin

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I used your link to download the new AE. My friend and I installed that version, met each other on the 911-Server-Lobby. I etup a game, started it with my friend waiting in the lobby. The game didn't crash and I got the mapview.

Then my friend tried to join the game (got the moving bar on the screen). Meanwhile I made one or two turns and my game crashed again. This crash is reproduceable.

Its your turn What shall we do? Perhaps its best we talk about a phonecall via PM and try to solve the problem.

Bastian

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Its your turn What shall we do? Perhaps its best we talk about a phonecall via PM and try to solve the problem.


Obviously, I should try to start an internet game myself, with someone else on the other end. Probably the first thing would be that I try to join such a game or create it on my end. This would be done with the final version of the game. If this reproduces the crash on my end then I may use the debug version on my end to try it again.

Unfortunately there may be a problem with using to different versions of the game, for instance that the game doesn't allow to join people using a different version, but we'll see.

Another thing is that debugging needs some time. For instance I may need to rebuild the executable and may make sure that we use it on both ends. To build an executable may take 10 to 20 minutes, if I have to rebuild it entirely, I may have to upload it to distribute it you may have to download it. In that case a high speed internet connection is needed.

And finally we need a place for synchronous communication, since the ingame chat doesn't work if the game has crashed. For communication we could use for instance the Apolyton chat room would be a way to do it. But for that I have to figure out again how it works.

Finally, I need to know when you have time so that we can meet in the chat room. I think I leave this thread so that anyone you wants to help can join us.

-Martin

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