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RobWorham
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As we have approximately two weeks to go before the set-up is finished, and team civilization choices have to be made I thought it about time we started to talk about how this process should occur and what things are allowed......

Do we submit each teams top three civilization choices, and any duplications are decided randomly by CyberShy, the mapmaker??

Do we allow multiple instances of the same civilization??

Do we go for a random civilization for each team??

Any other suggestions??? This is an open discussion, so please lets have as many opinions as possible.......

RobWorham
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My personal opinion is that we should allow multiple instances of the same civilization if they happen to occur...

Nugog
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My personal opinion is that we should allow multiple instances of the same civilization if they happen to occur...




Let each team choose their prefered Leader/Civ and lets get on with it.

It is always interesting to see how different teams handle the same leader.

RobWorham
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Any more opinions??

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I don't know, if duplicates of civ/leaders are allowed, we could see half of us playing the same civ/leader, which would kind of defeat the point of UU / UB.

Nugog
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Put an end to popups!


Does this not just become another in-game issue for the teams to deal with?

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Isn't this really a choice of leaders, rather than civs? That way we can have only one leader but we can have more than one civ twice or such, if it is possible. To make that much clearer, snce it does look confusing, I would say that we should have multiple civs allowed, but have unique leaders. I consider the choice of leader different from the choice of civ.

Nugog
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If we can only have one of each leader in the game - then how do you determine who gets first choice?

Considering the kind of map we have - "water" leaders/civs may be very popular.

If more than one team chooses Willem (for the traits and the water benefits) how do you propose we make that decision in a fair and equitable manner?

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Leave that for the Map Maker then.

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Erm... you want the mapmaker to decide which team plays which civ/leader?
Another option is to let the team with the most members decide first which leader/civ it takes, and if any team with less members wanted that particular one too, too bad.

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That was for the case of teams choosing the same leader. That was his question and my anwer to it.

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If we submit each teams top 3 or top 5 choices to CyberShy by PM.

If there are any duplicate leaders he could roll a dice to decide. Highest score wins, fair and square.....

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What's wrong with multiple leaders? It'll be team names that show up on the bottom right of the screen anyway. There shouldn't be much confusion - multiplayer games have the same leaders all the time and don't have significant issues.

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I don't like multiples leaders, it's so boring and not real.
The top 3 election civ seem me the best option

Nugog
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If we submit each teams top 3 or top 5 choices to CyberShy by PM.

If there are any duplicate leaders he could roll a dice to decide. Highest score wins, fair and square.....


Will work for me.

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I think it might be easier to run a first round with a single leader preference then see how many duplicate leaders we have, and take it from there: one duplicate out of seven doesn't seem too lacking in variety to me, but seven Sitting Bulls might be a bit OTT.

RobWorham
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Any more thoughts on this, either as individual players or as teams opinions??

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I don't like multiple leaders too.

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Multiple leaders/civs

RobWorham
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Can I suggest we have the following ruling on the matter :

Multiple civs are allowed, but each civ must have a unique leader.

Teams are to submit top 5 leader choices to CyberShy by PM

If there are any duplicate leaders he could roll a dice to decide. Highest score wins, fair and square.....


If there are no objections I will forward this ruling on to CyberShy, the mapmaker, on Sunday 13th April at 10.00 GMT.....

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I think the Templars should get first choice because we have the coolest civ.

Rabbits choose last.



(or Rob's suggestion as an alternative..... )

Nugog
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Sounds fine to me Rob.