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Chuckman
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Thought I would start an ideas thread. We, the masses, could post ideas for scenarios, scoring structures, etc. Gathering all the ideas here might make life easier for RobWorham and Nugog.

Chuckman
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Aside from the normal variants (Terra, One City Challenge, etc.) here are some different ideas.

Give Peace a Chance- Always peace, no barbarian love fest. Skill level could have different leaders. Novice- Gandhi, Advanced- Tokugawa. (I was thinking of this when I saw a fellow poster mention a love fest in another thread.)

Marriage Rules- Not only do you need to win, but you must establish a permanent alliance and that ally must survive to the end of the game. (Never played this, just came up with the idea while thinking of different twists.)

jbp26
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you should definitely use normalized scores to determine winners, otherwise earlier victories aren't weighted.

the all peace game could be interesting. another great variant that i saw at realmsbeyond civ was that each player starts with any one tech of their choosing. very interesting turn out on that one.

Nugog
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playshogi
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I really hope this series doesn't descend too far into variant land, or use goofy map scripts, like donut. RB does that.

Nugog
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RB does that.


playshogi
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RB would be http://realmsbeyond.net/civ/ which tries to avoid playing simply for high score or fastest finish.

Methos

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The above reminds me of RB as well and not something I'd really enjoy doing here. RB has a lot of very interesting games, but I don't think we should copy them.

Just my 2 .

playshogi
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I think this forum needs greater visibility to attract more players. One easy thing to do is to move this forum up to where the defunct Civ 4 HOF & SP Tournaments currently takes up space. When someone first logs on to the forums, only the first 4 (or 5 if bookmarks are minimized) are displayed without scrolling down. Furthermore, when entering the General/Help/Strategy forum, the next 3 forums are stickied at the top. (This currently includes the defunct Civ 4 HOF & SP Tournaments forum). I think having a forum that has not had a post in over a year in such a prominent place and one that directly competes with this forum is poor design. Frankly, the Civ 4 HOF & SP Tournaments forum should be deleted.

RobWorham
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OK, we are now on game #10, and the tournament will soon have been running for 6 months, so do you guys have any comments on what maps or scenarios you'd like to see in the future???

Give us your feedback and we will see what we can do to incorporate them into the tournament........

Cheers!!

Nugog
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Apart from Boreal and Highlands not being too popular.....

draethor
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One easy way of freshening things up I think would simply be to vary the size/number of opponents.

Could do something like smaller pangaea maps and only accept conquest wins, or large/huge maps (but up the tournament time from 2 weeks to a month or something).

Fleme
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Apart from Boreal and Highlands not being too popular.....




Highlands wasn't that bad per se, it's the neighborhood people complain about. (I think).

That said, I'd really like to play a "regular" map again, one with terrain allowing a city grow past size 10

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Highlands wasn't that bad per se, it's the neighborhood people complain about. (I think).


Definitely wasn't the type of neighborhood I'd want to raise my children in!

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Keep the ideas coming.

Fleme
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I suppose it's really hard to add a lot of novelty value since things are bound to repeat themselves and that is not necessarily a bad thing. For me all the games have been a welcome change of pace from my usual settings and it has been both strange and refreshing to play on Normal Speed when I usually play Marathon. It's also nice to see different map types but I swear if the map type is Shuffle, I'm not playing it. Seems that the rotation you have going is good and there's some catch to every map, be it scarcity of certain strategic resources, incredibly hostile surroundings or a start position that forces you to either be hostile or expand aggressively.

"Forcing" players to run a specialist economy was a nice touch, too.

To put it short I do appreciate the variety you've put into these games and I personally wouldn't mind if the games repeat themselves at some point because you can always make players go at them with different leaders, game speeds, surroundings or other game settings.

This whole League is a really good thing, for both learning more about the game and passing time.

JungleIII

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You could just make a standard game map, and save it as a 'public map' (a scenario), and let US chose who we want to be... from the premade list of choices.

Might be interesting way to see what 'preferences' players take on as their choice in leaders...

It would probably be best as a small map with only 3 or 4 civilization choices to play from. Not that this would be the 'normal' style of Tournament game, but a once in the while game...

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RobWorham
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Chuckman
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I still like the idea of a love fest.

JungleIII

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Good Game Elements
1. Consistent skill level in game (can be achieved by harder or easier maps, conditions, etc, leader selection)
2. Variety
3. Trying new things to encourage diversification of players skills
4. Use of more maps representing earth type environments, be it arbitrary as in “big and small” or actual Europe or other maps…

Bad Game Elements
1. “goofy maps” – unrealistic settings (Boreal was "O.K." - disliked but not too unrealistic)
2. Always war - probably not always peace (unless at fast speed) - both can get tiresome and maybe better ways to achieve goal...
3. Limiting ways of winning to ONLY a narrow range of choices or one choice (fine to narrow somewhat on occasion)
4. Marathon is tough to finish for some, unless very small map or advanced start


Couldn’t we try starting a game once in a while that stays in era longer? I.e. starting in something like Medieval Age with extra units/settlers and on Marathon Speed. Maybe everyone is in Europe... or... or...

Just a few more thoughts…

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RobWorham
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Fleme
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I personally play Marathon exclusively so the Epic speed was a nice change from the usual normal - although I wouldn't consider the optimal choice for a maptype like Boreal. Anyways, I hope to see Epic again.

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Nugog
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I personally play Marathon exclusively


Ditto

I find Epic a bit too fast - and Normal is almost unplayable to me. I have never tried Quick.

draethor
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Yeah I also hope to see epic again.

I think marathon