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Old May 5, 2004, 22:06   #1
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GENERAL: Cafe "Tamerlin" II
Our famous cafe after 6 months of successful service has been moved into a new location, Apolyton avenue and CtP2 Source Code boulevard corner, downtown.

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You can bring your own coffee, cookies, beer and whiskey

This cafe has been named after Tamerlin, a regular member of this forum, for reminding us that there is a 500 post limit

The next cafe will be named after the member, who will begin the most interesting discussion in this thread, after a vote, wich will take place after post 450 and will last up to post 500.

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Old May 5, 2004, 22:35   #2
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I have been drinking scotch and coke, slowly decreasing the coke measures, thus, what is your favourite drink? Therefore methinks i win the most ineresting discussion

Or if thats not on topic or whatever, what is the solution to preventing a human to "learning" an AI?
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I'm certainly not a programmer but I think (if it is possible) that we give the AI varying types of strategies (economic, scientific, warmonger, etc) and have it adjust based what the civ's personality is and how the game progresses. This would also requiring balancing powers. Like an economic would have to have something to deter war mongers etc. The AI would adjust or pursue a path to keep the human off balance.

This might also require the player to select certain presets at the game start, like picking what advantages to give the AI as opposed to lumping it in diety etc (i.e. a separate set of combat bonuses, economic, or scientific) based on what you feel your strengths or weaknesses are and then set the AI up for success to match your strengths.

the other option is make the AI very "patchable" so those dedicated few can keep updating it

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Big mc drinks a milkshake and the new café to keep it in his my thread box

and e locked alliances are a must.
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I have been drinking scotch and coke, ...
I remember two Scottish colleagues of mine, who would have hung you for that sentence alone. Even if you didn't mix it. But to have Scotch as a paragon of purity together with a sugar and chemical infested beverage, which is on top of all even yankish, is something like a sacrilege and comes right after drinking Scotch "on the rocks".

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You want a single Scottish malt whiskey on its own ( I hope your not drinking bells) isn’t that right Sir Ralph.


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The only exception to this rule is in milk when you have a cold.
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To be honest i cant start drinking scotch alone, its been too long since ive been on it i couldve easily started with scotch and threat but i wasnt planning on killing my organs in one night, not tonight anyway. With coke you end up pissed as a rat and wide awake
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I remember we were out one evening, bowling with our scottish friends. They ordered whiskey. The waiter asked which one. They answered "the best you have". He brought Jack Daniels. They almost killed him.
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Youre never alone with gentleman Jack or so they say. Expensive paint stripper they should say.
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Re: GENERAL: Cafe "Tamerlin" II
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Sometimes one should know when he has to shut up... I never know.



To answer Maq's question I must admit my favorite drink is the Suze, a French bitter alcool made from a mountain flower named Gentiane, a real delicacy (the alcool... not the flower).

I appreciate good beers and Whisky (alone, without ice) though.

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Jack Daniels

Jack Daniels

American whiskey is crap for a good whiskey it’s got to come from Scotland.
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American crap is the best crap in the whole crappy world.
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Here is another good use for Jack Daniels (except paint stripper ). I recorded this about five years ago hanging out in IRC, lurking the conversation of a bunch of script kiddies and wannabe "haxx0rz":

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00:12 <DW6> well. i was usin on my dirtbike chain, and the wind blew it back
      in my face
00:12 <DW6> but thats another story
00:12 <DW6> :)
00:12 <YumYum> it mite have been the dirt
00:12 <DW6> just like the time i had some overspray while spraypainting and
      painted my iris black
00:12 <DW6> :P
00:13 <YumYum> er
00:13 <YumYum> how could u have seen
00:13 <YumYum> ur iris was painted black if
00:13 <YumYum> u painted over it
00:13 <YumYum> koz then everything would be black
00:13 <YumYum> innit ?
00:13 <DW6> yea
00:13 <DW6> it was sorta cloudy
00:13 <DW6> i had to goto the eye doctor
00:13 <DW6> he gimme some drops
00:13 <DW6> kinda embarrasing
00:13 <DW6> :)
00:14 <DW6> i just wanted to wash it out with jack daniels
00:14 <YumYum> hehe grown man crying ?
00:14 <DW6> but they wouldnt let me./
00:14 <YumYum> yeah.. pretty embarassing
00:14 <YumYum> thats a waste of jack daniels
00:14 <DW6> bleh. the doctor cost 40usd
00:14 <DW6> the jack was cheaper
00:15 <YumYum> wel
00:15 <YumYum> feel better
00:15 <YumYum> in paying 40usd
00:15 <DW6> although i doubt it would have had the same effect
00:15 <DW6> anyway.
00:15 <YumYum> u personally
00:15 <YumYum> contributed to
00:15 <YumYum> paying off the dr's mercedez benz
00:15 <YumYum> :P
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The American response. The same response that in American shows goes


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Were the best in the world at everything except ......
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I have been drinking scotch and coke, slowly decreasing the coke measures, thus, what is your favourite drink?
I like to drink some sweet red wine with my meal, some beer like Haineken or Mythos when I go out or some scotts on the rocks when the ticket is expensive

I also used to drink some ouzo or sabuca from time to time but I haven't for some time now.

But the best drink of all time is..... water

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But the best drink of all time is..... water
don't you mean banana milkshake

Is that flavoured or unflavoured sparkling or still. Irradiated or just polluted.
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Here is another good use for Jack Daniels (except paint stripper ). I recorded this about five years ago hanging out in IRC, lurking the conversation of a bunch of script kiddies and wannabe "haxx0rz":
I dont know whats more interesting, that kid with the JD or you pulling out a chat log from 5 years ago
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I had saved this one on a special place, because it's funny. By the way, even in this example the JD is described ... as paint stripper.
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I have another question for you Peter, are the CtP2 and Civ: CtP SLIC functions so close that the CtP2 Updater2 could work with Civ: CtP if new arrays are entered?

I would like to give Civ: CtP another chance with the Apolyton Pack but I must admit that without an Updater I am still reluctant.
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I have another question for you Peter, are the CtP2 and Civ: CtP SLIC functions so close that the CtP2 Updater2 could work with Civ: CtP if new arrays are entered?

I would like to give Civ: CtP another chance with the Apolyton Pack but I must admit that without an Updater I am still reluctant.
No, SLIC1 in CTP was very different and much less powerful than SLIC2 in CTP2 is. You should be able to write something analagous the updater, but it certainly wouldn't just be a copy/paste type operation.
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Hey a new Cafe thread
I'd just like to take this opportunity to b*tch about the weather in the UK.
We've had some really great days recently - lots of sun so i take a week of work to go visit a few old friends and family.
It rains really hard every one of the seven days
Then i get back and the next day its back to nearly 20 degrees and fantastic sunshine all day!

The sooner they build a huge dome over the whole country the better(i imagine it looking like the city shield thing from CTP2 - just bigger ).

just had to get it off my chest - one tankard of Mead please new barman
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No, SLIC1 in CTP was very different and much less powerful than SLIC2 in CTP2 is. You should be able to write something analagous the updater, but it certainly wouldn't just be a copy/paste type operation.
Thanks for your reply J Bytheway. I suppose someone would have done it if it had been possible.
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Hey a new Cafe thread
I'd just like to take this opportunity to b*tch about the weather in the UK.
We've had some really great days recently - lots of sun so i take a week of work to go visit a few old friends and family.
It rains really hard every one of the seven days
Then i get back and the next day its back to nearly 20 degrees and fantastic sunshine all day!

The sooner they build a huge dome over the whole country the better(i imagine it looking like the city shield thing from CTP2 - just bigger ).

just had to get it off my chest - one tankard of Mead please new barman

And the weather report for this afternoon cloudy (looks like the bbq off.)
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Man, its been hot here (up norf) today, all ive heard all day is lawnmowers I expect it to be well and trully p***ing it down for the weekend though
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It's the pollution the worked it out that the car fumes actually seed the rain for the weekend. Even the weather works on a seven day cycle.
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It's the pollution the worked it out that the car fumes actually seed the rain for the weekend. Even the weather works on a seven day cycle.
How does that work? any more info as it sounds kinda wierd - cars causing rain?

I like to think the odd weather patterns we get these days(compared to say 10 years ago), are somehow tied in with the (IMO) sad state of the games industry. I bet if we could get to the truth, we would find infogreed/Atari at the root of all troubles They want us to stay indoors to play those expensive to make and awfull cookie-cutter movie tie-in console games

oh its raining again.......... Damn you mega-publishers! leave those kids alone!
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How does that work? any more info as it sounds kinda wierd - cars causing rain?
Particles from the car fumes go up into the atmosphere then they combine with the water vapour and increase the raindrop size until gravity takes over.
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wow - thats so simple its got to be true

maybe countries with little rain should get some UN funding/incentives for more cars?
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